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Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Resident Skeptic: Is national Israel really relevant?
I am curious as to what some of you might think of the outline below. I do
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Resident Skeptic:
That thought crossed my mind as well. How do you feel about the writer's stand on Israel
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Aaron Scott: The kind of JUNK I can't stand!
I don't have any problem with the claim that national Israel is not a fulfillment of prophecy. Israel is a nation, much like any other democracy, and are deserving of our praise or our denouncing, depending on their actions.I do not accept that notion that leads many to overlook Israel's faults, while not missing the faults of their enemies.HOWEVER, I am against this TRASH of people trashing other views of the Bible as being somehow evil, deluded, false, ungodly, etc. We do that to just about every Christian that disagrees with us. ENOUGH! It's one thing to believe we are wrong; it is another to act as if we are sending people to hell...that we are heretics, etc.That's just game-playing. Virtually EVERY doctrine has SOME basis in scripture. It may be wrong. It may not stand under rightly dividing the Word of God. It may falter when you take a fuller view. But let's not act like people have ZERO REASON to believe as they do.The OSAS group? They have some scriptures to back them. Not enough, I would think, but it's a fair conclusion to draw.Free Will/Predestination? Both have good reasons for their positions.
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  bonnie knox:
Origin of Positions cited plus comment (L)
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Mark Ledbetter:
The link to which the materials posted can be found at the following website. http://www.bible.ca/premillennialism-rapture-replacement-theology-supersessionism-three-promises-abraham-fulfilled-israel-god-land-joshua-solomon.htmAny attempt to pin[point the exact author ends in a dead end. All is attributed to http://www.bible.ca.One of the interesting claims on its webpage, “Who are we?” (http://www.bible.ca/seek-about.htm) is whoever they are believe they are emulating the early church established in 33 AD and “human creeds, catechisms & statements of faith cause religious division because they compete with the authority of the Bible and cloud people’s ability to clearly see what the Bible actually says.”And the webpage adds, “With the Bible as our only guide, we seek to find what the original church was like and restore it exactly.”Many of the thoughts I find intriguing.In light of their position it is easy to understand why they refute Darby’s Dispensation and Rapture Doctrine. They view it as man-made doctrine not revealed in Scripture.Thought there are other positions presented I want to address one of the chief components of their argument:Plain Bible passages say that Israel got all the land promised Abraham, where they cite Joshua 21:43-45; 23:14-15; 24:28; 2 Sam 8:3, etc. and they conclude “it is apostate theology to say that God did not give Israel all the land promised to Abraham.Look at 1 Kings 4:21, “Now, Solomon ruled over all the kingdoms from the River [Euphrates] to the land of the Philistines and to the border of Egypt; they brought tribute and served Solomon all the days of his life.”Compare the Promise God gave to Abraham found in Genesis 15:18, “On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, ‘To your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates… (see also vvs.19-21)Consider also Genesis 17where God declared His covenant with Abram and his descendants as an “everlasting covenant.”There is a significant difference between the descendants of Abraham inheriting land under Joshua, and possessing the land in fulfillment of the complete territory described and…King Solomon ruling over vassal kingdoms paying him tribute God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Nature Boy Florida:
I would need to see the writer's stand on the civil war, Hitler and, well, people of color in general. That is so right.I can guess though.
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Resident Skeptic:
I would need to see the writer's stand on the civil war, Hitler and, well, people of color in general. That is so right.I can guess though. The writer made it clear he was pro-Israel from a political standpoint. Why not take him at his word instead of acting like you work for the DNC
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Resident Skeptic: Re: The kind of JUNK I can't stand!
Then prepare to be labeled a Nazi loving Jew hater.So many of our brothers here are brainwashed and do not even know it. They have been trained to slander those who might point out some inconsistencies in what is commonly taught on certain historical topics
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Resident Skeptic: Re: Origin of Positions cited plus comment (L)
Thank you for a very thought provoking response to the writer's claims. You raised some excellent points and you didn't feel the need to accuse anyone of being anti-sematic
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Mark Ledbetter: RS wrote,
Who knows? Before I'm through maybe I will, well at least anti-Israel. It it waddles like a duck...As for the claim the original post regarding Israel established as a nation not prophetic, I don't disagree. No specific prophecy dates the establishment of Israel as a political entity.I do see its establishment, however, as part of the restoration process leading to the spiritual restoration of Israel God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led
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