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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: The God of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims? |
| I don't make it a point of doctrine, of course, but I do believe that the Muslims, though their understanding can be twisted, dark, and erroneous, is reaching out to the God of Abraham, as they understand Him.Consider that the Athenians were ignorantly worshipping the Unknown God--and Paul came along to declare Him unto them. To tell them the truth about this Unknown God, to reveal what they did not know, to straighten out misconceptions.It occurs to me that the radical Muslims of today are pretty much like the early Old Testament Hebrews. Consider that when Muslims stone someone, we are taken aback, considering it barbaric...yet in the OT, that was standard operating procedure.Hands could be cut off in the OT...same with the Muslims today.Both believe strongly in circumcision (since both Ishmael and Isaac were circumcised).The modern-day Jews have pulled away from many of these OT practices. I'm not sure I understand their justification for doing so. Christians have justification, since we believe in the grace of Jesus, but I'm not sure that Jews have as good a reason for acting like stoning is somehow barbaric, since, supposedly, that is the Law they should be following, right?Just to clarify, Muslims are WRONG. They are going to hell if they don't accept Jesus. Further clarification: Jews are WRONG. They are going to hell if they don't accept Jesus. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | UncleJD: Re: The God of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims? |
| There's a lot to unpack there Aaron so I'll just keep it short.When Christians say Muslims don't worship the same God as I do, on the surface that may seem incorrect if you ONLY consider the term God and the historical context from which they claim their religion flows.Muslims claim the word Allah is simply God in their language and I agree with that. However, saying that he is the same God as Yahweh is not true based on the revealed nature of Yahweh vs. the god of Islam. And the revealed nature of God is the very core of the mater. The name and historical link (creation and Abraham) are insignificant.Then there's Jesus. The physical, human, tangible manifestation of God that Christians actually DO worship, denying Him is the opposite of the claim that we worship the same god. So, while many Christians might be ignorant of the historic reasons for saying Allah and God are synonymous, in their hearts they understand that the revealed Christ is the core of who God is and that there is not even a vague similarity. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | DrDuck: Re: The God of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims? |
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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | c6thplayer1: |
| Our God is a God of Love and does not require us to kill those who dont convert to Christianity. I could go on and on but you get the picture.I wonder how our wives would feel if we were awarded 72 virgins in heaven?How would we feel if our wives were awarded 72 men in heaven? It seems to me that lust would be prevalent in heaven if this was the case.As a side note ; |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Old Time Country Preacher: Re: The God of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims? |
| Partially correct, Aaron. 1. Christians access Jehovah via Jesus.2. Jews reach out to Jehovah, while rejecting Jesus as Messiah. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: Uncle JD |
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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | UncleJD: |
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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | DrDuck: |
| Not UJD, but Muslims, while they do not acknowledge Jesus as savior, they regard him as one of the greatest of prophets. Even their holy book confirms the virgin birth of Jesus. Oxymoronic that they do this and still hate Jesus' followers enough to kill them wholesale. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Link: |
| As far as the name 'Allah goes, Christians use that term. The evidence seems to support the idea that this was the pre-Islamic Christian name for God. Some of the Christians named their boys 'Abdullah, which is a contracted form of 'Abdu 'Allah. 'Allah is believed in the cognate with 'El in Hebrew. 'Abdu is cognate with 'Obed. Do Muslims worship the same God? Maybe it's a question of semantics. We might argue that the Samaritans were closer to Judaism than 'Islam. But Jesus said to the Samaritan woman 'Ye worship ye know not what.'But we might translate that as 'Ye bow down to ye know not what.' The topic she had raised was the proper place of prostration. The Samaritans had had a rival temple in Samaria after a high priests brother was expelled from the Jerusalem temple for marrying Sanballat's daughter, and was given the role of high priest in a temple Sanballat built for him, taking a number of priests with him, according to Josephus. I've heard that Islam teaches that 'allah is the biggest deceiver. For Christians, that sounds like a description of the Devil.In speaking to Muslims, particularly in languages where 'Allah is a name for God that Christians use, I don't think it is wise to say they worship another God. Talk about what 'Allah is like. You can point out that Muhammad claimed that the proof of his prophethood was in the Gospels and Torah, so explain that those books aren't corrupted, and then point out how important it is to study these books. Then tell them what the Bible says |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Old Time Country Preacher: |
| Uncle JD... |
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