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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: The church is the worst place for the victim to go for comfort/justice in child abuse |
| In the below article Rachel Denhollander states she lost a lot in her coming forth to accuse Larry Nassar, the Olympics team Doctor of abuse. She lost her church.Looking at many church related abuse charges, some highlighted here on Acts, she could be right. Of course from her stand point she is.What do you think?www.aol.com/article/news/2018/02/02/rachael-denhollander-nassar-church-worst-places-to-go-for-help/23351688 Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Carolyn Smith: |
| I agree with what she said, but there is a reason of sorts. Evil men & women have used this as a ploy to destroy ministers, and since we believe in innocent until proven guilty, the church has overreacted and are afraid to bring in law enforcement.Physical, verbal, and emotional abuse are also swept under the rug and people are told to pray about it.If sexual abuse is reported to the church, and there is a shred of evidence it is true, it should be reported to law enforcement. I think pastors are required to report it. It should not be handled by the church. It is a tough line to call, though, whether someone is trying to cause trouble or whether it's true. And by the time it's discovered to be untrue, a minister's reputation and a church are destroyed.Sexual abuse victims outside the church need to go to a qualified counselor. Most pastors (and wives) are not equipped to offer the kind/depth of support needed. But it should not be ignored, either More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| Good logic and comment, The church in THIS DAY especially, is facing very tough decisions!!!!People NEED answers. Yes Christ is the Answer for one's soul! Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | SouthFloridaman: |
| On another note |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | BishopsWife: |
| Re: On another note |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| Yes.I know of some in North Florida that were no longer used - once they had the predator tag affixed to their face online. I don't know of them being used to minister after that - or if they were (by law) even allowed into the church without an escort |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: Re: On another note |
| This is our biggest problem. 'Protect' our church and reputation. Handle it in-house.That may have worked in years past, but the victim 'remained' a victim years later. That was/is sad. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | SouthFloridaman: |
| This is our biggest problem. 'Protect' our church and reputation. Handle it in-house.That may have worked in years past, but the victim 'remained' a victim years later. That was/is sad. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| If I am not mistaken we are breaking the law if we do not report such actions at present. Of course some would argue it is hear-say and the pastor/leader gives credence to the leader. But I think those arguments are mute with the present laws. I understand that 'any' accusations of 'molestation' must be reported.Maybe someone can clarify that, in reference to church.I know the Catholic has and is having MUCH problems for lack of past actions Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | SouthFloridaman: |
| Correct reporting is required. It is that moment after reporting and the law being involve that is concerning what I call judicial purgatory. The time where people are finally realizing what has happened. With cases involving minors there is no statue of limitations so the waiting til someone press charges can take years even decades sometimes victims don’t pursue charges out of embarrassment or trauma. Just think of the the parkland school shooter many came forward sounding the alarm the police visited the shooter and still the ball was still dropped the unthinkable happened. I wonder how much political correctness played a factor in that. The church can’t afford to have the same happen. We have to have procedures. Plus with some experiences. I have heard of perps and their family who are so mentally deranged as to keep attending the churches where the abuse happened even after being caught. Sometimes under the guise of being Delusional or mentally ill enough to believe that nothing happened. Many good church attendees flee the church upon discovery of what happened. I know of a church my friend grew up in had hundreds of members and Predator got in the nursery who was also the church secretary’s husband. The court was backwards enough to try and make 3 and 4 year olds go to the stand. One parent just dropped charges because of her daughter’s nightmares. The pastor left the church and no one went to that church as pastor for months. The church went from 600 |
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