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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mark Ledbetter: oops |
| with just a few touches on the keyboard - delete God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: Mark, a couple of thoughts... |
| I think you would find that the word circumcision could be used in place of sabbath (in terms of it being prior to the Law, codified by the Law, practiced by Jesus, etc.). And yet we know clearly that it is not required for Gentile believers. Granted, however, that the Sabbath is not so clearly exempted.It is MY OPINION that one of the reasons the church moved to Sunday vs. the Sabbath was because, in time, the divide between Jews and Christians became more and more intense. With the rise of Judaizers, it seemed that the early church grew more and more distrustful of Jews and/or those that thought Christians should observe certain Jewish traditions/requirements.The Catholic Church may have cemented the change, but it doesn't seem to me that it would have arisen organically from the notion that Jesus rose on that day. That is, it is hard for me to think that Christians said that they didn't have to observe the Sabbath just because Jesus was rose on the first day of the week. It seems that there must surely have been other drivers to the change. And it (again) my opinion that it all may have been a reaction to Judaism trying to control Christianity...or a reaction to feeling pushed out of synagogues by the increasingly bitter divide between Jews and Christians...or a reaction to being thought of as just another branch of Judaism (e.g., Pharisees, Saducees, and Christians). |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mark Ledbetter: Re: Mark, a couple of thoughts... |
| While circumcision, like tithing, pre-dated the Law of Moses, circumcision is a non-issue. The Jerusalem Council addressed this issue. Further, Paul later equated the symbolism of entering the Abrahamic covenant with baptism: |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: The Apostle also writing to the Corinthians: Only, as the Lord has assigned to each one, as God has called each, in this manner let him walk. And so I direct in all the churches. Was any man called when he was already circumcised? He i |
| How do we know which day is the true Seventh day that God rested?Perhaps our Wednesday is the actual Seventh Day. How does anyone know it isn't?Who has been the one keeping count since the first seventh day of rest?Did God assign Adam a calendar task? How do we know he kept it accurately? Who did he pass that task to next? And then who?And if we don't know - would the concept of taking a seventh day of rest suffice as keeping the Sabbath, whether Saturday, Sunday or Wednesday |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mark Ledbetter: Nature Boy... |
| So, why do you offer this as an argument? Do you offer it because you are opposed to observing the Sabbath?Or, do you offer it to support observing on Sunday?Or, do you offer it to support we should treat every day with the same esteem and in anticipation of entering into a rest God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| It wasn't an argument.It was a question.You indicate you believe Christians should observe the Sabbath. Sounds fine to me.How do we know which day actually is the Sabbath |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Isa 58:12: That's a good question Nature Boy |
| On the question what day do we keep as the Sabbath, look up what the Jews been doing throughout the centuries as G-d gave them the Eternal Covenant of the Sabbath, they have never lost it & just look at your calendar, what is the seventh day? I know they're changing calendars now to make Sunday the 7th day, but that's not correct. Throughout history the Sabbath day has never changed, now calendars and days have been changed, but the Sabbath day has always been Saturday 😠Ps 122:6 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: Re: That's a good question Nature Boy |
| Nah, the Jews have pretty much messed up every single thing the Lord commanded them, AS WELL AS rejecting God's ONLY BEGOTTEN SON. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: Re: That's a good question Nature Boy |
| Nah, the Jews have pretty much messed up every single thing the Lord commanded them, AS WELL AS rejecting God's ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.And you, you keep misspelling God's Name, and you will almost certainly go to you-know-where. Besides, didn't the Bible say something about TAKING AWAY FROM? Yep, hell it is.... You beat me to it Aaron.Jesus had to keep telling these guys everything they got wrong about God, His Law, etc... but were expected to believe they got this one right? Not buying it |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mark Ledbetter: Nature Boy: What day is it and Spelling God's Name |
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