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Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Isa 58:12: How do u see
Matt 23:8; but u do not be called rabbi, for One is your Teacher, the Messiah, & u all are brothers?What is being said here? People here have used this verse on me, but what is being said here?Shalo Ps 122:6
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Da Sheik:
What translation are you quoting from ? The entirety of Matthew 23
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Isa 58:12:
🤔 I was using the ISR translation. But what do u say about vs 8, I'm pretty sure it was u that recently used that on me lol 😉. & It's not even u, many people use this verse, how do u see it Ps 122:6
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Isa 58:12:
Well I think ur the 1st I've talked too lol. So is someone being called a rabbi wrong Ps 122:6
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Dave Dorsey:
Well I think ur the 1st I've talked too lol. So is someone being called a rabbi wrong? Is your plan here to try to lure someone into saying yes, it's wrong and then cite Mark 9:5, 10:51, etc?I think you'd find people more willing to engage with you if you stated a clear position and tried to defend it. Instead, it seems like you are always trying to lead people into a trap, like the Pharisees in Matthew 22
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Isa 58:12:
Well I think ur the 1st I've talked too lol. So is someone being called a rabbi wrong? Is your plan here to try to lure someone into saying yes, it's wrong and then cite Mark 9:5, 10:51, etc?I think you'd find people more willing to engage with you if you stated a clear position and tried to defend it. Instead, it seems like you are always trying to lead people into a trap, like the Pharisees in Matthew 22. Maybe that isn't the case at all, but that's how it sounds, at least to me. It's not a trap Dave, I want to see how people believe on this verse. I wasn't going to court those verses, but I could. This is no trap, I'm just trying to talk about the scriptures and let's bring out the true meaning of what it's saying. Too much has been said and believed that is incorrect. I believe Sheikh is on the right path, but he never answered my question 😶Why do people think it's a trap, this is a Bible form right? Let's talk about the Bible 😀. Let's discuss what we believe 😇. & Why is everyone afraid to be wrong? I thought we as believers want to know what G-d say Ps 122:6
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Isa 58:12:
Btw Dave, how do you say it Ps 122:6
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Isa 58:12:
Here is a question for you Sheik, is that what's going on, are u factoring all of the chapter? Because what do u do with verse 9? Do u not call the head of ur Family father?🤔Messiah calls them hypocrites the 1st 7 verses, then in verse 13 on He continues with calling them hypocrites. Does Y'shua just stop to focus on titles in verses 8-10?How do u see it Ps 122:6
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Da Sheik:
I think I addressed this but I will try once more **sigh**The entirety of the chapter is devoted to Jesus pointing out the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and their ilk. He advised his followers not to follow their example(s). They loved the praise of men more than the praise of God. Jesus was not forbidding people to refer to their biological fathers as “father”. He was renouncing the practice for assuming titles and places of honor in the spiritual realm. OTCP is no longer among us, but assuming the title “doctor”, when only honorary, would fit into a similar category. This is not brain surgery To sum up Jesus’s words to the Apostles:“Look at the Pharisees....don’t be like them “
Author:  acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ]
Post subject:  Isa 58:12:
Yes, Y'shua is pointing out their hypocrisy for wanting to be seen & praised by people, they wanted the praise, theaccolades, best seats in the house.... A true leader, teacher, etc washes people's feet, Y'shua did, we are supposed to be His disciples 😇. Doesn't Paul talk about the 5 fold ministry, teachers? 😉But He's not after the titles, because, for the sake of this, rabbi means teacher, & Y'shua says I'm your Rabbi, He washed their feet He's saying don't go around proclaiming you're a rabbi to be seen of men. Vs 9 about calling no man your father, I believe the same thing was going on here that the Catholic Church does was being called father, it's an elevated status and we are not to have, not don't call your dad father. Remember, this us a leadership discussion, vs 1 about the people sitting in Moshes seat... Ps 122:6
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