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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | caseyleejones: Surrogacy to unsaved/gay parents.....what does the church say? |
| We had a situation a few years ago where a woman in our church chose to be a surrogate for other women. However, one specific time she became one for a gay couple. When the leadership found out, they discussed the concern with the family and reasoned that this was more or less a moral failure and requested she step down from all church positions.The husbands argument is that this is no different than a UPS man delivering a package to the door of a sinner. To me that is a weak argument...but then again...I have to digress because I don't know.I really do not call it a moral failure. However, there is a part of me that sees it as wrong. Then again, does the Word address such issues or something parallel to it.Back then, nobody here could really give me a substantive biblical answer. Years later, I still don't know. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Wyatt: Its well beyond moral failure |
| As soon as the husband (and presumably, his wife) began to even remotely consider a baby as no different than a package to be delivered by the UPS, their conscience had already been seared as with a hot iron. God help us if we ever entertain such inhumane, demonic considerations in our mind! |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Carolyn Smith: |
| Perhaps Ephesians 5:1-12?1 Therefore be imitators of God as dear children.2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma.3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints;4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.5 For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| I feel that is way out there - and being a surrogate for a gay couple - not sure how to reconcile that one.How about these also - A little off topic - but related.If a person gives up their child for adoption - due to concerns that they won't be able to take care of them properly - how would one know they aren't going to get placed in a gay couple's home? It is legal now.A corollary - is it better to let your child be given up for adoption into a gay couple's home - or to have an abortion |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | UncleJD: |
| A. That wouldn't be knowingly or purposefully done by the birth parents so hard to say anything about that one.B. Since murder is worse, then I guess the first option is better, but assuming its a Christian couple then their obligation would be to keep the baby rather than either of these options. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Travis Johnson: |
| LUKE 17:1-31 One day Jesus said to his disciples, “There will always be temptations to sin, but what sorrow awaits the person who does the tempting! 2 It would be better to be thrown into the sea with a millstone hung around your neck than to cause one of these little ones to fall into sin. 3 So watch yourselves!A mature believer willingly placing a child in an environment where godlessness is celebrated and the child is virtually guaranteed to embrace and celebrate an anti-god posture is deeply troubling. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | UncleJD: |
| Finally.....some very good arguments.... |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | caseyleejones: |
| UncleJD are you serious? |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | COGLayman: |
| UncleJD said: She enabled mentally deranged, perverted, and probable child molesters to basically enslave and torture a child. I don't see it any differently than selling a child into slavery.Let me get this right. You are saying if someone is gay they are mentally deranged, perverted and probably a child molester? |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | John Jett: Re: UncleJD are you serious? |
| Re: UncleJD are you serious? |
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