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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: Cloture passes 51-49; Flake/Manchin a yes, Murkowski a no |
| Next big piece of news will be Senator Collins' floor speech at 3pm ET, where she will announce her final vote. If she is a no, the GOP must retain Flake and Manchin to get to 50, and that seems like a tall order.Murkowski allegedly heard many stories from constituents who had been victims of sexual assault and rape. Alaska has the highest rate of rape and sexual assault of any state in the nation, and I don't doubt that Murkowski heard many heartwrenching accounts. What I don't understand is how that translates to her placing her hands on Kavanaugh and making him the atonement for the evils her constituents and others have suffered. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: |
| Flake is now a yes unless something big changes before tomorrow -- no idea what that would mean -- but for my money, Flake is a maybe until the final vote.If he holds, only Collins OR Manchin are necessary to confirm. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| Of course, she also said he said he wasn't overturning Roe v Wade - so if that was the cost - what did we gain |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: |
| Judge Kavanaugh isn't limited in his rulings to the opinions Senator Collins expressed today. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | diakoneo: Susan Collins is... |
| no heroa true political grandstand-era politician to the bone. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: Re: Susan Collins is... |
| re: collins |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| A very good speech. Politician? YES. After reading wht the Hollywood eleite had to say about her I did e-mail her to thank her for the speech and her vote. I am sure she has no time to read the thousands of e-mails she gets. but I have friends in Kennebunkport and Milbridge who really respect her.Roe vs Wade will not be overturned in the near future, I agree with DD there. Reagan probably had the most influence at the time and it was not done then.I would like to see it overturned, but we have never been able to legislate morality, and won't, most likely. The Church's job is the Kingdom. If laws agree that is wonderful...I appreciate the FREEDOM we have in the USA, the best country yet Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mat: I come away ... |
| I come away wondering, after watching this week's conflict and the assaults on senators, about the access the protesters have in the capital building. How do they have the time, income and access to carryout such disruptive and personal attacks in the very seat of our national government?What they do is make me what to fight back. Only the grace of God would keep me from such behavior if directed towards me. These protesters may not want anything to do with Jesus, but they should thank God I do. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: Re: I come away ... |
| I really struggle with this. The right to petition the government for a redress of grievances is one of the most fundamental liberties guaranteed by the Constitution. The ability to visit the Capitol and discuss your view with a passing member of Congress is absolutely an example of this sort of petition.Yet, I think most any fair-minded person would acknowledge that some (if not more) of what we saw this week (and what we will likely see today) comes dangerously close to crossing the line into incitement, assault (in the legal sense of threatening harm), etc. Americans have a right to protest. They have a right to petition their government. They have a right to be civilly disobedient. I think we need to be VERY careful about where we draw the line on issues like this. But, with that said, I don't think anyone can argue that our elected officials were not being put in danger this week. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | diakoneo: Re: Susan Collins is... |
| It sure doesn't take much to squeeze the air out of your balloon. Senator Collins said: |
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