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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Eddie Robbins: TD Jakes: Orthodox or no ? |
| Definitely not orthodox |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: |
| I don't know if Jake's is really oneness. How oneness does this sound? |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: ________________ |
| That's modalism, Patrick. Actually, it is orthodox trinitarianism, at least according to the man who wrote it, who was not T.D. Jakes.The quote is actually from |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Wyatt: The Potter’s House Website Doctrinal Statement Affirms Modalism |
| “There is one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in three manifestations: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.“thepottershouse.org/explore/belief-statement/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: |
| One in essence, three in person.We do not have a logical contradiction here because God is both one and three at the same time, but He is not one and three in the same sense. The three divine persons are distinct in terms of their personal relationships to one another, but not in their essence. All of them are the being of God. They do not have an independent existence—you could not take away any of the three persons and still have God. Rather, the three persons subsist within the one divine nature, coequal in terms of their shared essence.www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/one-essence-three-person/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: |
| One in essence, three in person.We do not have a logical contradiction here because God is both one and three at the same time, but He is not one and three in the same sense. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: ________________ |
| TD Jakes Fully Trinitarian Since 2012 (link) |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | FG Minister: |
| www.bpnews.net/37054/td-jakes-says-he-has-embraced-doctrine-of-the-trinity |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: Re: TD Jakes Fully Trinitarian Since 2012 (link) |
| I also claim to be fully trinitarian, but within a certain school of thought on the subject. I'm of the one who, three what's camp, God in three persons (personas). The prevailing view now is one what, three who's, not God in three persons, but three persons (beings) who are each God |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: Re: TD Jakes Fully Trinitarian Since 2012 (link) |
| Fully Trinitarian?From the article: Jakes said he prefers the term manifestations instead of the term persons -- a position he has stated before.That's modalism, full stop. Also, Jakes' so-called conversation at the Elephant Room cannot be reconciled with this statement on the Potter's House website which affirms the same:There is one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in three manifestations: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.thepottershouse.org/explore/belief-statement/What Russell Moore states in the article is fair -- to take Jakes at his word if he claims to be Trinitarian. But even giving that, it's clear his understanding of Trinitarianism is not mature. |
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