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Post subject: p5harri: Pastoral - A seasonal calling?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am
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Where I attend church, I marvel at the number of people I have met who at one time held a pastoral role, but now serve in other ways. One is over the church facilities, one's a guitar player on the worship team and myself who briefly held a pastoral role, every Sunday I'm either driving our shuttle, greeting or security.When talking to one of the other people above who serve this week he brought up that he believed his time as a pastor was seasonal. I know in the past I've been met with the if you are a pastor, why aren't you doing that now. For me the reason is simple, I have made myself available and expressed my desire but the doors have not been open.However, if it is seasonal then maybe that's the answer I need, because truth be told I love what I do every Sunday and I can't think of anything I enjoy more than serving and being part of our team at church in the capacity I do now


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Seasonal, I suppose, is a good way to describe it. Some may have longer seasons than others. I think I may have stayed too long at my last church. 9 years and a total of 17 years. I am glad I no longer pastor. Yes, there are a few things that I miss ...okay I thing... having a pulpit to preach in every week. Oh I guess there is one other, a sense of belonging to a community of believers. Since we have left over a year ago, we haven't found a place to fit in.


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Truth be told, there are a probably lot of pastors who would have liked a more seasonal approach to pastoring rather than a lifetime commitment. One of the major issues that prevent this of course is income. To leave the security of the pastorate is a very scary thing if you don’t have a reasonable assurance of sufficient income to replace what you were making.One of my former pastors has found fulfillment doing administrative work with his denomination at the state level. Another left the pastorate to focus on developing specific ministries such as college age and young marrieds. For me personally I don’t know where exactly I fit in any more, a feeling shared by many I’m sure. I’ve done every job there is to do in the church and make myself available if the pastor needs something done. The desire to preach is as strong as ever however, and that is my heart. Unfortunately, the opportunities are few and far between, as others have noted. So, it’s pray, pray, pray while waiting on the Lord “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”


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Post subject: Cojak:
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A very good subject P5. I never considered my situation as seasonal but a mistaken path. I had two short pastorates and a plant. The plant was considered a 'success', it was a very good church. It was growing when I learned I was not 'called'. The church was a very good church for years after I left. There was a 'split' a few years ago that I hated to hear about.But I was in tune to kids. I loved working with kids. After my 'back sliding' was over I found my 'nitch' in the ministry of kids. My soul was satisfied as I watched kids learn 'more' about Jesus.I realized much too late that I had missed 'my calling', or love. I had a desire to serve, and mistakenly followed the path of the pastor. In the 50's being called to serve almost always meant 'being a pastor or preacher.'I never considered 'seasonal' but that could be a description. I certainly would not argue that. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/


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Post subject: Cojak:
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This is the CRY of so many 'former &/or retired' men and women. As I travel I hear this VERY OFTEN. My wife and I even fall into that category during our extended periods 'away from our home church'.It is a little heart breaking that we have found a good place to attend, not COG, and are learning 'too' much about it. LOL This one is considered a cult by many. The more I search the net the more 'unwholesome' the 'Fellowship' sounds. Although locally I have noticed very little of disagreement with my thoughts and heart. Right now I am not 'trying to fit in' just worship and observe.BUT the 'FIT IN' situation is definitely a problem with former ministers


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Post subject: Preacher777: Cojak and other fromer pastors & PKs
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[quote=Cojak][quote=diakoneo]... Since we have left over a year ago, we haven't found a place to[b][size=18] fit in.[/size][/b]I have also made myself available. But alas at 55 they have put the pastor out to pasture ☺️[/quote]This is the CRY of so many 'former &/or retired' men and women. As I travel I hear this VERY OFTEN. My wife and I even fall into that category during our extended periods 'away from our home church'.It is a little heart breaking that we have found a good place to attend, not COG, and are learning 'too' much about it. LOL This one is considered a cult by many. The more I search the net the more 'unwholesome' the 'Fellowship' sounds. Although locally I have noticed very little of disagreement with my thoughts and heart. Right now I am not 'trying to fit in' just worship and observe.BUT the 'FIT IN' situation is definitely a problem with former ministers [color=red][b]and also preacher's kids.[/b][/color][/quote]I do not doubt your statement about trying to fit in as a former pastor or PK. Can you and others explain what happens to make it hard for you and other former pastors and PKs to fit into the church? Why do you thinks fitting in is so hard?me Ihad a good experience pastoring a PK couple and reached out to several retired pastors who I am friendly with but they gravitated to bigger churches. I am not saying they were wrong.


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Post subject: Aaron Scott: I have never been able to fully articulate it, but, yes, I think there are seasonal assignments....
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My dad loved evangelizing. He'd end one revival on Sunday morning, pack up and drive to another one that was starting Sunday night. Back to back to back. But my mother, having to handle two very rowdy, disobedient, and otherwise terrible children (I speak of my brother and sister), asked him to pray about pastoring.When to door opened, it was his job for the next 34 years. God would not have been displeased, I don't think, with my dad continuing to evangelize, but neither was he displeased with pastoring--which had the added benefit of greater stability, etc.We often think of the will of God as something like a thread that we must walk, when, as one preacher put it, it was more like a field with a fence around it: You could do a lot of different things inside the fence/will of God.Consider that Lot could have chosen ANY direction--even all of them--and Abraham would STILL have been blessed by God.There are pastors, I am sure, that labor on in unhealthy circumstances (to them, the church, or both) because they are under the impression that they are forever called to that church--at least until they are called to another. Consider that while the CALLING may be forever, the place may be transient, the position may be transient.I wonder if we are CALLED to be pastors, so much as called to be men and women of God...who serve where God places them...for the time that he has for them there.There are no doubt thousands and thousands of churches that remain alive today because someone came along and kept the place alive until the torch could be passed to someone who could take over.Men of God were needed to wait on tables in the Book of Acts. It might be that many of us (I am especially sensitive to Cojak's take on his pastoral experience) were called by God, like Esther, for such a time as this--whatever time that might be. God sees a need, He sends a man or woman of God to handle the matter until someone else comes along to handle it.Sis. Culpepper preached a sermon at the Florida Camp Meeting some years ago in which she said that she felt that her giftedness was in being a gap-filler. No doubt that is another way of saying Helps, but, boy, that hits that bulls-eye, doesn't it? I have women in my church that are wonderful Sunday School teachers (at any level), yet also ensure that our fellowship dinners are stocked with great food and the such. Our Treasurer is the same.The truth is that no matter how long you pastor or do the same job, it's still only temporary. At some point, you're going to be done (or done in). There are likely a lot of folks who have held on when they should have let go and allowed God to place them in the next place of use.Think of how blessed we all would be if we were RECEIVING the best someone had to give, and were giving the BEST we had to give! But so often, we press, drag, crawl onward, losing our inspiration and vitality...perhaps because we think that God meant us to be in THAT role forever.Some may indeed have long-term assignments, but some of us are wired differently.COJAK, every time you have visited our little church, you and your wife have been a wonderful encouragement and blessing--to both my family and the people (especially the children) of the church. And Cojak, I would wager that those churches you pastored have been instrumental THEN and LATER in helping people receive enough encouragement to go one more step. Then one more. It may be, Cojak, that you were right where God wanted you: serving as a pastor. Maybe it wasn't forever, but if God got glory, if God helped someone, if someone received a blessing, etc., then, even if it was for a season, you were of use to the Master.


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Post subject: Quiet Wyatt:
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Re: I have never been able to fully articulate it, but, yes, I think there are seasonal assignments....


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Great post! I like the idea of calling NOT being a thread to walk, but a field to walk in. Thank yo


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In the Bible, the apostles appointed elders, also called bishops, from within a local church who met up to certain qualifications found in I Timothy 3 and Titus 1. In movements influenced by Methodism, there is an emphasis on 'the call' to ministry.Is there anything in the Bible, even, about the pastoral ministry being based on a 'call'?There are some people who think if a pastor does anything else for a living, he's gone astray and abandoned his calling


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