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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | doyle: Author says he has to "debate Christian serial killers." |
| www.dailywire.com/news/42126/adams-why-i-have-debate-christian-serial-killers-mike-s-adamsDo you agree with his claim that churches have been gutless concerning abortion? Some statistics seem to indicate over 300,000 babies killedin U.S. each year. I saw one stat that claims over 60 million have beenkilled since Roe vs Wade became law January 22, 1973 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| I think a lot of churches don't think there is sin anymore - and even if there is - it doesn't matter thanks to the grace of God - so there is no need to speak out against any of it |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: Some thoughts... |
| I believe that most Christians would be absolutely up in arms if toddlers were being killed, etc. In fact, it would probably be a lot more than Christians involved.But by its very nature, abortion typically takes the life of an UNBORN child, a child without a name, a child without a photograph. And that slight disconnect from the more concrete case of toddlers is enough to make unborn children feel abstract.Not to everyone, of course, but to enough to keep us from storming the Bastille.We have long couched abortion in a manner that seeks to make the unborn more real (even though we know, at least intellectually, that they are real!), but there is, I think, only so far that most of us can go since, as I pointed out, we see them as a bit of an abstraction.Now, we CLAIM that unborn children are NOT an abstraction--and, indeed, they are as real as you and I--but empirically we tend to classify them as somehow different from a walking, talking, breathing child.A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT:There are two women who are the same age, etc. One is one-month pregnant, the other has a 3-year-old child with her. They pregnant woman is drowning on one side of you, while the other woman and her toddler are drowning on the other side of you. You can save either one of the women and their children.Now, the right answer for those who urgently oppose abortion is All things being equal, it doesn't matter, because in both cases you are saving a mother and a child.BUT THAT'S NOT HOW IT FEELS, DOES IT?I imagine most of us, perhaps due only to the fact that we can SEE the one child drowning, would likely try to save the mother and toddler. Those who know that the will mess up the anti-abortion logic will say (although I'm not sure just how much I believe them...or how much they are really just saying it to be consistent), Oh, that wouldn't be me--I KNOW that the toddler and the fetus are utterly morally equivalent.The truth is that a walking, talking, SMILING child is going to connect to us far more than the abstract fetus that came into existence last week, and is not much larger than this: |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: Re: Some thoughts... |
| There is a lot of points here that does point out some truths as to why the unborn is not given the same weight as the smiling baby we can see. This subject can break your heart. But you do say some things here that gives me much to ponder about Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| Unless you are a Calvinist - then all the babies are in hell...never accepting Jesus as Savior |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Quiet Wyatt: |
| Unless you are a Calvinist - then all the babies are in hell...never accepting Jesus as Savior. www.desiringgod.org/interviews/why-do-you-believe-that-infants-who-die-go-to-heaven |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| Our God is a just God, a benevolent Father. I have a feeling if God decides the fetus is a child his/her adult soul (if there is such a thing) is in heaven.Some humans make a lot of decisions for God methinks. One day we may understand the mind of God. Lots of stuff I would like to know, as mama would say, we will know in the morning.I am looking forward to seeing that saint of God again. Even if the Lord tarries, I don't have a lot of time to wait. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Eddie Robbins: |
| Unless you are a Calvinist - then all the babies are in hell...never accepting Jesus as Savior. www.desiringgod.org/interviews/why-do-you-believe-that-infants-who-die-go-to-heaven |
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