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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | roughridercog: When one of our churches are sold... |
| What happens to any surplus money?Can it be spent for any purpose?Is it required to be used for planting new works?Where is the checks and balances system?Just asking the hard questions |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Darrell Garrett: |
| Those are questions that need to be asked and DEMAND answers. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Travis Johnson: |
| That can’t be real. If it was, you should talk to the Overseer and state council. There is no provision for a state office to use proceeds from sold properties to pay salaries. Now, if particular property is sold and the state office paid to cut the lawn, pay the mortgage or utilities while the defunct property was being sold, that money should be recouped by the state office and spent however it likes. That is fair and addressed by the GA. There is no provision for the state office to recoup monies from the expenses of property A from the sale of property B. That should not happen in any state. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | AdamJ: |
| That can’t be real. If it was, you should talk to the Overseer and state council. There is no provision for a state office to use proceeds from sold properties to pay salaries. Now, if particular property is sold and the state office paid to cut the lawn, pay the mortgage or utilities while the defunct property was being sold, that money should be recouped by the state office and spent however it likes. That is fair and addressed by the GA. There is no provision for the state office to recoup monies from the expenses of property A from the sale of property B. That should not happen in any state. The General Assembly passed clear direction on that. I cant imagine a state doing that. If it is, the state council should address it. They are responsible for that as well...not only the state Overseer. We know what the GA rulings are. We just have no power to enforce it. How can we sell multiple buildings and still have almost nothing for church planting. If you use the word misappropriation you can be destroyed. So |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Darrell Garrett: |
| That can’t be real. If it was, you should talk to the Overseer and state council. There is no provision for a state office to use proceeds from sold properties to pay salaries. Now, if particular property is sold and the state office paid to cut the lawn, pay the mortgage or utilities while the defunct property was being sold, that money should be recouped by the state office and spent however it likes. That is fair and addressed by the GA. There is no provision for the state office to recoup monies from the expenses of property A from the sale of property B. That should not happen in any state. The General Assembly passed clear direction on that. I cant imagine a state doing that. If it is, the state council should address it. They are responsible for that as well...not only the state Overseer. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Travis Johnson: |
| The number 1 listed responsibility of the state council is oversight of this specific money. A state overseer AND a state council are to appropriate money in the manner directed below. It’s a General assembly mandate. It simply says what it says. Both offices have a job to do...doesn’t mean it’s easy. But, it is very clear. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Darrell Garrett: |
| The part they are using from the 1994 Minutes is section 42 Church Property. Look at Item V part B. It is on page 211. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | cogcia: |
| That looks really good on paper. When you see an AB taking cereditials of anyone that opposes him you either let him have his way, hold your peace or walk away. How can a state councilmen hold an AB accountable unless he is more connected to the COG system than the AB. I’ve seen them try to absolutely no effect. I’ve also seen a couple Councilmen that carried enough influence to do it more effectively. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Travis Johnson: |
| That looks really good on paper. When you see an AB taking cereditials of anyone that opposes him you either let him have his way, hold your peace or walk away. How can a state councilmen hold an AB accountable unless he is more connected to the COG system than the AB. I’ve seen them try to absolutely no effect. I’ve also seen a couple Councilmen that carried enough influence to do it more effectively. If an AB rules with an iron fist they are not looking for Council. Unless it helps them get their way. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | MI6: State Office takes the money |
| They spend the money from SOLD Property on anything... property, payroll, |
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