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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Link: Questions about tithing |
| If a preacher uses verses about paying tithes to Aaronic priests or the fatherless, widows, stranger and Levites within Israeli gates to collect a tithes from his congregation, then uses some of that money for himself to live off of, is He misappropriating funds, since the verse he used was about supporting the kohenim and not himself? Might the LORD hold him responsible for robbing God, or for using the LORD's tithe for the priests for himself?Paul indicated that those who are of faith are not under the curse of the law like those who seek to be justified by the law. Are Christians who do not tithe cash income to the local church because they are poor or give elsewhere or whatever other reason under the church mentioned in Malachi |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Resident Skeptic: |
| Interesting that the tithe teachers remain silent |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: |
| Re: Questions about tithing |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | FLRon: |
| I have to be honest and admit that I am at a fork in the road with the issue of tithing. All of my Christian life I have tithed. I have preached and taught that it was the biblical thing to do. I used the scriptures in Malachi to defend the practice, as well as the fact that Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek which I believed was a clear lesson that we were to tithe even though there was no law at that time commanding such practice.Today, however, I find myself increasingly uneasy with saying tithing is required of a New Testament believer. Of course, I believe one should financially support their local church. How else will the doors remain open? I just struggle every Sunday now with marking that envelope as “tithesâ€, and find I am tempted more and more to mark it simply as an offering in an effort to appease my conscience. That way it at least stays in the local church. As I’m still trying to come to terms with this issue, I’m sorting out all kinds of emotions. The pastor says every service without fail that it’s time to receive the “tithes and offeringsâ€. He expects the membership to tithe, especially those involved in ministry. I struggle with instances of financial improprieties because of things I’ve been told, and that raises numerous red flags. For this reason alone I cannot give over and above, even though that is something I’ve always done. I don’t like making any decisions based upon emotions however, so I feel like when it’s all said and done I will likely continue to tithe, but it will because I want to do so, not because it is a biblical mandate. Either that or I will simply mark everything as offering. I guess time will tell “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.” |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: Re: Questions about tithing |
| This was pretty much where we ended up. My wife and I came to a place where we just couldn't accept that tithing was the one part of the Mosaic law that still bound believers. We couldn't accept that a temple tax for theocratic Israel was somehow still in force today. We couldn't make OT tithing compatible with NT scriptures about giving.So, with much trepidation and uncertainty, we gave the belief up... and continued to give exactly the same as we had before when we were tithers.Honestly, giving does feel much more rewarding and joyful now. I no longer feel like I'm doing something to avoid a curse. I feel like I'm giving freely and without compulsion, and it's become a true delight. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Da Sheik: |
| Simply put, it requires a hybrid of law and grace to say that tithing is mandatory for NT Christians. I think the tithe is a great model for giving, but I realize many of my peers don’t like the word “modelâ€. When you understand grace, you stop saying things like “do I have to?†and start pleading to participate in giving as the Macedonian believers did with Paul. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| There you go! Amen and Amen, I do admire how some can say what I wish I had said. OUr friend Da Sheik has a knack of that. Yes and Amen Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | revuriah: |
| This has honestly been a place I’ve wrestled for a long time. I pay my tithes. I check “yes†on my reports for tithing. But I am having a harder and harder time saying it will bring a curse on a born again follower of Christ if they don’t give 10% to the penny. What about the person that gives all they can but it amounts to 8%? Does God see their heart and honor their giving or does He say, “Sorry, child. That was 2% shy of tithe. No blessing or favor for you.â€I’ve honestly been that guy. I hate that I’ve been there. I’m not now. But I really feel for those that are in that position. I get to give. I want to give. And those that can’t quite hit 10% still have that desire to give to the Lord. I believe He honors them The World As I See Itworldjeffreysees.blogspot.com/Revuriah's Facebookwww.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Richard/1226257444Jeffrey David Richard's Myspace Musicwww.myspace.com/547856946 |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
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| From what I gathered, flocks and herds were to be tithed, but I am unaware of references to laborers and merchants being commanded to tithe their wages and profits in the Old Testament.Having land enabled Israelites to tithe from the land. But a widow could end up with no inheritance, and a fatherless child might be too small to work an inheritance. Levites had no inheritance and neither did strangers (foreigners.) These were the groups that were to recieve the tithe of the third year. Just think about the widow, the type of person who would have received Biblical tithes. Many preachers preach tithes but do not make any efforts to put a widow-feeding program in place like the Jerusalem church did and like Paul wrote to Timothy about. There are preachers who will preach a curse at widows who do not tithe, but not use any of the tithe to help them, when widows in the Bible were recipients of one of the tithes. Is this just |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| Agreed - it would be scary for me to ask for tithes and not do what the tithes did in the OT. If it's now the govts job to take car of (at least some of) those things - perhaps the govt should get some of the tithes, as well |
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