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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: Does it bother you? |
| I really, really hope posters here take a minute to honestly think about what they would have said had Obama done this.Because we all know what the answer is. There would be pearl-clutching like the world had never known. Pulpits the following Sunday would be filled with breathless exhortations about the spirit of our age and how we have a president who takes God's name in vain without a care in the world.You guys don't have to reply. Just please, I beg you, |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| I just don't know what kind of back wood churches you guys attended when Obama was President.He said lots of crazy things that were totally ignored by my church - where we simply prayed for our leaders each week.Seriously, if your church bashed Obama every week - or you want your church to bash Trump every week - you are the guys with the problem.Or perhaps you are making things up about the other churches - they are rubes - but yours is holier than thou. Either way - get a grip guys. This 'look at how unchristian everyone else is(said with chest puffed out) and how will anyone ever become a Christian with Christians supporting the President stuff that I see coming from you people is ridiculous. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Mat: It's not the President .... |
| It's not the President's fowl language which troubles me - he is not my Spiritual leaders of example. I don't think he's really a Christian. Its the growing number of preachers using course language that makes me question the future of this nations. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: |
| Good article from yesterday morning on this: thebulwark.com/the-cancer-is-spreading/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | sheepdogandy: |
| Who is your alternative?Any of the Democratic contenders?Mitt Romney?Jeb Bush?I voted for Mike Pence.Trump is just along for the ride Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: Eddie, just to clarify, he is not MY president. He is OUR president. |
| I didn't put up with people saying that about Obama, and I don't think we should do it with Trump.The truth is that if Trump acted like a saint, people would say he was manipulating people. If he acts like the devil, that's his true colors, apparently. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Eddie Robbins: |
| Thanks for admitting it bothers you. It bothers me greatly but I’m more bothered by professing Christians and “leaders†who |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Nature Boy Florida: |
| Ya'll are so holy. Ya'll are the only ones that see what a bad man Trump is.I hear the Cherubim want to add ya'll to the list of folks they sing Holy to.At least Trump let's you see exactly who he is - no hiding it. Trump sucks as a person. He is a loud mouth New York Yankee - guys from the South have never liked anyway. OCD is the female version of Trump. We hate both of them. We don't like Hillary either. Or Sanders. Or Kamala. Or Biden. But, if the choice happens today - I vote Trump - and it isn't even close. Check out just one of the many things the guy has done that I completely approve of...that no Republican has had the guts to do until Trump...that isn't a bone he's throwing - it is substance that is meaningful to me - and NO ONE has done that in a long time.www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-abortion-restrictions-go-into-effect-immediately/He is flawed - but appears to have become a man who does what he says, and he says he is doing what he can to end the child sacrifice law Roe v. Wade. I'll take that any day over liberal Christians that only take shots at him. I believe God is pleased with Trump's efforts here. We voted in the Christian Jimmy Carter - and he did nothing; voted in the Christian G.W. Bush - and he did nothing. The Christian Obama - and he made things worse. Trump is getting it done. The average Christian approves of this. The holier than thou Christian only points out the mans flaws. That is what I am sad about. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: |
| Dave, there is ZERO hypocrisy about this, at least in my case. You surely know that I left the Republican party precisely because I didn't like the fact that they were acting all aghast when Obama would do something, yet had been starkly silent when GWB did some of the same things.I DETEST Trump's language and attitudes. Yes, I have also heard that he has done many good things. I voted for him, and I support him, NOT because I am condoning his language or actions, but because 1) I more closely align with his policies than the policies of the opposition; and 2) there is not a SINGLE DEMOCRAT that I know of that I would rather have, no matter how much more presidential they might act.This is truly a lesser of two evils issue. I wish it was black and white. It's not--nor has it EVER been. Every candidate has good point...and bad ones. Based on Trump's style, he is often reprehensible (although, to be fair, he has been hammered mercilessly from the day he won the election--I can understand the hard, New York fight that is in him, even if I don't like it), but his POLICIES--not the least of which are largely conservative Supreme Court justices--he is WORLD'S better for our nation than the next guy on the list--even the next guy on the Republican list (who would not doubt be all presidential, but wouldn't have the guts to move the American embassy to Jerusalem...or to engage with North Korea). |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: |
| Aaron -- let's be clear. I have no problem with someone holding their nose and voting for Trump. Doing so is defensible, for many of the reasons you have outlined.I especially have no objection to this if that action is give in the context you have given it here, with proper attention given to what a deplorable human being Trump is. What I can't stand and will continue to object to is otherwise good people glossing over this stuff. Someone should be able to say the president is a reprehensible person who says reprehensible things, and while I may vote for him because of the policies he is enacting, I cannot wait until this stain on the dignity of our nation is removed.But you and I both know that's not the attitude that the majority of white evangelicals have toward Trump. They (not necessarily those here on Acts) are full-throated supporters. They don't want less Trump, they want more. It's his uncouthness that gives him his strength, they'll say. Finally we have a guy who is willing to take it to the Democrats and the media like it needs to be taken to them. His tremendous personal flaws are not grievous traits to be excused, they are the traits that make him uniquely great. |
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