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Glad I got rid of my McArthur leadership books when he ripped the Holy Spirit Strange Fire junk.I can't trust anything the guy says

What brought this up

I think he misses the mark as well on Strange Fire, but I don't see it as an attack on the Holy Spirit

A woman spoke at the Strange Fire conference

I guess that made it really strange

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING STORY CONCERNING JOHN MACARTHUR AND HIS VIEWS CONCERNING BETH MOORE. I AM PLACING A SCRIPTURE BEFORE AND AFTER THE STORY TO SHOW WHERE JOHN MACARTHUR IS IN OPPOSITION AGAINST GOD AND THE SCRIPTURE - HE NEVER SPEAKS TO THE 5 FOLD MINISTRY - BUT ATTACKS WOMEN IN GENERAL and women DOING ANYTHING IN THE MINISTRY...And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;

The idea of 'strange fire' as a metaphor for disorder in church goes back a long time in the Reformed movement. John Knox preached along these lines.The idea is supposed to be that doing stuff in church that the Bible does not instruct us to do is akin to Nadab and Abihu offering 'strange fire' before the Lord. They died of course, for using the strange fire from outside of the temple that God did not command them to use instead of the fire from the altar. And of course 'altar' in the Bible means a place for burning sacrifices or incense, not a place of prayer in front of a pulpit. The idea that doing something you are not commanded to do--in church-- is an idea expressed in the 'Regulative Principle.' People in many of the congregations in the US that call themselves 'Church of Christ' will use this as an argument against musical instruments.It is a huge leap to assume that a passage about an activity done for atonement in the New Testament applies to activities we do for mutual edification in church. But if it does,

Where is Rafael when we need him.I like JM. Great Bible teacher. Few Pentecostals actually teach the word anymore

I think MacArthur is a brilliant scholar. Even brilliant scholars, however, get it wrong some times. John M is a cessationist and a five point Calvinist, which of course most Pentecostals are not. I am on board with him concerning a lot of the “extra biblical” excesses that he often speaks about, but I have a problem with the way he lumps all Pentecostals together with every extreme fringe group in the church, which is not fair to do IMO.One of the first books I ever read of his was “Ashamed of the Gospel” which contained a lot of truth, and dare I say could almost be considered ‘prophetic’ to a small degree “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”

I think your feelings and perceptions of JM are shared by many of us. Great post