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| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: An idea about the nation's debt... |
| Some of the ideas being forwarded by the Democrats (e.g., debt cancellation of school loans, etc.) hark back to notions about Jubilee. In our current world, I don't know that we will ever get to the place where we cancel debt on a broad scale. After all, if a doctor has their school loans cancelled, the blue collar workers are going to complain that the doctor, making far mare money, got a free ride, while the blue collar workers, who are just as much in need of debt relief, got nothing.BUT WHAT IF....It came to me that what if we did one of two things (or both): we just had an across the board debt PAUSE for say three months? You don't owe anything extra. You simply don't have to pay anything for, say, March. You then get back to paying your bills in April, but your amortization is just extended by a month.OR...Or a debt CANCELLATION of, say, one or two months? That is, you NEVER have to pay that part back. Creditors are issued the same opportunity. That is, they don't have to pay THEIR creditors for those months, either. Would this be of benefit? If not, why not?Lastly, what if we America not only extended that to our foreign debtors, but at the same time, took a pause from paying our own debts? |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| NOW, all we have to do is get ENOUGH people/countries/governments to simply agree. LOLHumans are strange , especially many USA people. I once had a home paid off. I was going to be out of the country for a couple years or more. We allowed a couple who were strapped with rent payments to live in the home and just pay utilities. At the end of over 2 years, they had not saved $1. I was amazed. They had more debt than they had before and lost some things because they could not pay rent each month after years of FREE rent. In the beginning they said they would save and have a down payment on a house. Instead they went deeper in debt. That is a TRUE story with a sad ending. Both had good jobs.There was actually a little complaining that they had only 6 months to find a rental, we were returning.For some reason we have people and churches the same.....But yes it would benefit many..... Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | diakoneo: |
| Discipline is the key to debt demolition |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| You are correct about discipline. Money management is a lot like diet, alcohol, drugs and smoking, THE management of it, ain't easy. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Link: |
| In Israel, debt cancellation was set up as a part of the law before they went into the land and started using the land. Their financial decisions could take it into account.What would happen if the US suddenly decided to do this? Probably:- US T-Bills and other instruments would drop in value, not just in proportion to the lack of revenue in year seven, but due to a lack of confidence because in the sudden change in the rules.- The value of the dollar and US assets would drop in the world market.- Some serious economic ramifications because of the previous two points.- Many individuals, including land owners, who live off of the payments that are cancelled would be poor, stand in line at the food back, go bankrupt, etc.- Many REITs and other corporations that collect rents would go bankrupt. - The value of the stocks of companies in the previous point would drop, affecting retirees and others that depend on them.- Lending would drop to low levels.- Our current economic system could unravel.- There could be an economic crisis worse than the great depression |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | roughridercog: Great idea |
| They can sell fried pies |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: |
| LINK, why would a PAUSE do this? Consider that if a creditor is relying on payment of a debt in order to repay his OWN debt, well, he also is paused. So it would seem that it would be a wash.As for the discipline aspect, ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. There are people that you can could completely cancel their debt...and they'd be back in debt before long. BUT there are people who, if given a breathing spell, would use it wisely. They would perhaps be able to set aside money for saving, etc.One of the things I notice in myself is that I am someone who looks for magic bullets and one-stop solutions. So, the notion of saving, say, $10 every payday for 30 years...NOPE. But when I have the chance to save, say, $1000, yeah, that's something with a more noticeable impact on my bottom line, so I would do that. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cojak: |
| Shucks no! Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/ |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dave Dorsey: |
| That's gonna be a problem then, especially if all of the people who owe the employer money are taking a 3 month break from paying him. |
| Author: | acts [ Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Aaron Scott: Dave... |
| Dave...further.... |
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