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I do not know this writer. But I do concur on the surface at what is written. I do not like the slang 'Blab it and Grab it' to discribe a belief. But I do not sympathize with the basic idea.Today, for some reason, seekers seem to 'look for more and better ways' than the tried and true, 'Confess your sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and clense us.....'In my life time I have seen fake healing, heard of gold fillings, gold dust, smoke from heaven. I was raised by as Godly a couple as I have ever known. A pastor who NEVER had members from hell. I have heard in the parsonage from a little study room, this man growning and praying every time I got up to us the bathroom in the night. I knew as a child he went for a week without food, because he was not at the eating table at meal times. he is busy praying right now, mama would say. In his 50+ years of serivce to God I saw two real actual miracles. I never saw 'gold' in this righteous man's life. He never looked for the new but was ablee to adjust to changing times. I miss him and his honesty and love as a pastor.He always said, God has supplied my needs, not my wants. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

But it does not mean what some teach that it means, I don't think. That is, just because you SAY something doesn't mean it will happen. This is usually bound up in the whole name it and claim it extremes.However, consider that certain statements made by, say, Jacob regarding his sons...came to pass.Consider that Balaam was prevented from speaking a curse against Israel. Apparently, his words carried weight in heaven?When Ezekiel was told to prophesy to the valley of dry bones, he was not telling them about some future event that would take place 400 years in the future. That form of prophecy was a declaration to LIVE! And it came to pass.IF IF IF you speak when the Spirit of God is upon you to do so, I believe that it must come to pass. Why? Because you are declaring what the Lord will back up with His power. When Peter said, Rise up and walk, it was a command/declaration that was backed up by God.

The linked article does a good job tackling the basic proof texts used by this doctrine. There really aren't that many of them, and they are all single verses that are taken out of context.

You will find a verse where it was stated that if a person was living right, etc., they could decree something and it would be established.

Who gave that word in Job Aaron?God - or one of Jobs friends/detractors?Just because it is typed in the Bible doesn't mean God said it.Satan is quoted a few times himself

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Who gave that word in Job Aaron?God - or one of Jobs friends/detractors?Just because it is typed in the Bible doesn't mean God said it.Satan is quoted a few times himself.

Who gave that word in Job Aaron?God - or one of Jobs friends/detractors?Just because it is typed in the Bible doesn't mean God said it.Satan is quoted a few times himself. NBF, you did notice my disclaimer? However, there is certainly some truth in what Job’s friends said...as well as some things not so much. But take care lest in our reviling WOFfers, we denounce truth too. And they are also completely wrong sometimes. Which category does this fall into?Did God affirm that this man was right or that he doesn't know how God works at all

Who gave that word in Job Aaron?God - or one of Jobs friends/detractors?Just because it is typed in the Bible doesn't mean God said it.Satan is quoted a few times himself. NBF, you did notice my disclaimer? However, there is certainly some truth in what Job’s friends said...as well as some things not so much. But take care lest in our reviling WOFfers, we denounce truth too. And they are also completely wrong sometimes. Which category does this fall into?Did God affirm that this man was right or that he doesn't know how God works at all? NBF, it is not at all uncommon to hear in church some of the same things spoken by Job's comforters. Why? Because they are not 100% wrong. They DO say some things that are backed up by other scriptures (whether that means they are right or not is another question, since scripture can be used to prove pretty much anything, if you are so inclined). As I mentioned in my first post, both Jacob and Balaam apparently had enough weight in heaven that whatever they spoke, God would back up (otherwise, why would God even care what Balaam said?).Yes, there is a place for decree and declare (although I do not personally use those words to describe what I believe they mean). I believe the word prophesy is about the closest we can get to it (as in when Ezekiel prophesied to the valley of dry bones--he was declaring, decreeing, demanding that something happen in the Name of the Lord).