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Trump wants to limit immigrants from S***hole countries

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Post subject: Nature Boy Florida: Trump wants to limit immigrants from S***hole countries
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Wasn't there a better way to say There is a limit to the number of immigrants from third world nations that we can assimilate each year.Which would be true.We might disagree on the number - but I think we all agree we can't let 300,000,000 immigrants in each year.So what is the number that should be allowed? That is the discussion that should have been taking place in the White House.Calling other countries S***HOLES (whether true or not - btw most of Hollywood thinks the U.S. is a S***Hole) - well, he had to know the reaction it would get.SO either he doesn't care.ORThat is how he does every policy - get everyone stirred up - and sneak in what you what while everyone focuses on something else - or perhaps he wanted the whole immigration deal to blow up and go away. No one could be that dumb to think he was helping finish an immigrant deal with that rhetoric - and I don't think that Trump is dumb at all


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This man has surrounded himself with elite military minds who are all about strategy. Look at the countries financial numbers, does this happen if the man is dumb?Sleight of hand.


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He claims he didn't say it. If he did, it wasn't smart. You can say the countries are bad, because they are (obviously people leaving them think it), but you can't say you don't want the people because of it, that is wrong.I wish we'd all realize that when we take the young people with enough drive and intelligence to seek a better life for their families, out of their country, we make that country even worse and leave them with less hope for change.


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Whether we like it or not, most all recent presidents used profanity. Some openly. Some when they thought the mic was off.


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Eddie,I know the countries he singled out have darker skin.But I really don't believe the guy is a racist. To Democrats every Republican is racist - I get it.But, he has said over and over that he wants to emphasize immigrants that have skills that the United States can use to make itself better. If those countries folks had the skills he wants - he would let them in too. Indians have dark skin - and he wants lots of them.Like I said in my original post - I am all in favor of immigrants from our neighbors - we just need to set a target for how many unskilled immigrants we can reasonably assimilate each year and open it up to them. That's the discussion we should be having


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I agree with NBF. I'm sure he shares the same opinion about poor Caucasian countries. What qualifies you as a blankhole citizen is not race, but being impoverished.


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Looks like we disagree.By definition - if you want to immigrate - you think the country you are living in is not any good.Those countries that are in bad condition are like that for a reason - so the folks coming from there need a readjustment in their thinking to be successful - or they just want govt handouts from the U.S. - which is a whole lot more than they currently have.I just want to know - how many of those can we take in every year successfully? There must be a number. That is the kind of debate that I had hoped we were having in Washington. Trump says he blew up because we didn't fix any of the current problems we have in the bill presented to him. We can't keep taking in the numbers of folks we are taking in that do not offer a tangible skill that they can use in the U.S. There are only so many borrowed dollars that we can spend on it.Yes we should take in some on a humanitarian basis only. But there is a maximum number. What is that number? Now Trump calling a person's country as S*** HOLE was bound to tick off the leaders of those countries. I would expect them to cry foul - after all if the leader won't stand up for you - who will? The question is - are those countries actually S***HOLES that folks should want to get away from - or are they great countries that these immigrants should want to stay in


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Eddie,I know the countries he singled out have darker skin.But I really don't believe the guy is a racist. To Democrats every Republican is racist - I get it.But, he has said over and over that he wants to emphasize immigrants that have skills that the United States can use to make itself better. If those countries folks had the skills he wants - he would let them in too. Indians have dark skin - and he wants lots of them.Like I said in my original post - I am all in favor of immigrants from our neighbors - we just need to set a target for how many unskilled immigrants we can reasonably assimilate each year and open it up to them. That's the discussion we should be having.


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Eddie,I know the countries he singled out have darker skin.But I really don't believe the guy is a racist. To Democrats every Republican is racist - I get it.But, he has said over and over that he wants to emphasize immigrants that have skills that the United States can use to make itself better. If those countries folks had the skills he wants - he would let them in too. Indians have dark skin - and he wants lots of them.Like I said in my original post - I am all in favor of immigrants from our neighbors - we just need to set a target for how many unskilled immigrants we can reasonably assimilate each year and open it up to them. That's the discussion we should be having. Don’t miss the point. I’m saying that he already has that perception, so, why say something like that? Does he not realize it doesn’t help his cause? Does this bring us all together or divide us? It divides. I agree with everything you just said. Those words were totally not helpful. There were a lot better ways to say it - and since I don't believe he is an idiot - he said it like that for a reason - perhaps he did it to derail the whole thing. I don't know. I thought we were close to letting all sides feel they accomplished something - a win-win. Guess I was wrong


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Again, if he said it just that way, then yes it wasn't appropriate at all.


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