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Post subject: caseyleejones: Bethel Church and some practices.....disturbing....
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Some things they embrace are1) Destiny Cards...alternatives to tarot cards. They claim they are prophetic but not predicting the future.2) Angel Boards as opposed to ouiji boards. The HS will lead you through those.3) Grave sucking(soaking) ...soaking the anointing from the dead. Some actually lay on the grave.4) My MIL contacted my wife asking about their belief system. One of the Johnsons said on TV that the HS is a genie in the bottle and works like magic and he is blue in color


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Post subject: FLRon: Re: Bethel Church and some practices.....disturbing....
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And yet for all of this, and this list is by no means complete, there is no shortage of attendees at either their conferences or services. They even have their fans here on Actscelerate “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”


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When you look at the teachings and practices of Bethel church, it makes you wonder what on earth would need to happen for a modern-day Pentecostal to say, Yup, that's a false sign and a false wonder. Jesus warned us about this. I need to see that I'm not deceived.To the inevitable Bethel defenders in this thread, I would ask, to whom today (specific names and ministries) can you apply Matt 24:4-5, 24:22-24, 2 Tim 4:3-4, 2 Pet 2:1-3? To whom today can you apply Deut 13:1-5?


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Jim JonesDavid KoreshI'm not a Bethel defender, but I don't know any outwardly/seemingly Christian churches who say let us go after other Gods or whose Pastors say I am the Christ.What will Bethel do next? Draw lots to pick an apostle I'm not saved because I'm good. I'm saved because He's good!My website: www.bradfreeman.comMy blog: bradcfreeman.tumblr.com/


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Post subject: Mark Ledbetter: There is a reason Bethel
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later became known as Beth-aven, a house of deception, evil, inquiry, and idolatry God-HonoringChrist-CenteredBible-BasedSpirit-Led


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Post subject: Old Time Country Preacher: Re: Bethel Church and some practices.....disturbing....
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And yet for all of this, and this list is by no means complete, there is no shortage of attendees at either their conferences or services. They even have their fans here on Actscelerate.


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Post subject: Dave Dorsey:
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They were originally a part of the Assemblies of God, but withdrew in 2005. Bill Johnson said it was not a reaction to conflict but a response to a call... we feel called to create a network that helps other networks thrive — to be one of many ongoing catalysts in this continuing revival. Our call feels unique enough theologically and practically from the call on the Assemblies of God that this change is appropriate.Their theology and call are different, that's for sure. (2 Corinthians 11:4


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Post subject: brotherjames: This thread is beyond repulsive
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Bill Johnson's theology is rooted in the AG (5th generation). The things some of you are accusing him of are out of context and misunderstood. Is Bethel pushing signs wonders and miracles? Yes but shouldn't Pentecostals be also? They push a deeper relationship with Jesus, shouldn't we all? I for one would not like to have every word of every sermon I've ever preached micro analyzed. Don't we all say things that we wish we hadn't or be taken a different way than we intended. Do you have any idea how many people Bethel is impacting for Jesus every year? I just chalk this thread up to jealousy misunderstandings and outright meanness over supposed WOF teachings. I've known Bill Johnson for a long time. I respect the man and just wish I could teach as well as he does. Our church is networked with Global Legacy while still being AG. I find no theological basis for not linking arms with them in our pursuit for Jesus, souls and revival. Has Bill made mistakes? YEP Did he endorse Bentley after his fall Yep. Ok OTCP? But, have you made mistakes? YEP you might be wise to not disparage what you do not know. But I know that won't stop yoiu from doing it. Oh well. My 2 cents you will do what you always do, I'm not sure why I bother. This is old news been discussed ad nauseum. Haters gonna hate, it's what they do, it's just sad some of you call yourself Pentecostal. I expect this stuff from John Macarthur, just sad it comes from COG boys too.38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.


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Re: This thread is beyond repulsive


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Post subject: Dave Dorsey:
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Nope. The AG has explicitly denounced Dominionism, Kingdom Now theology, and other core tenets of Johnson's approach to Scripture.


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