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Let's suppose that in the next election for GO, a man is elected who has a very strong and straightforward agenda for the COG. He starts to work immediately and after a year, 250 new churches are planted just in the US and another 1000 internationally. In that year a great revival breaks out and 25,000 people are saved around the world in COG congregations. In that same year 1200 ministers answer the call to preach and are credentialed in the COG. This year has been one of the most prosperous in COG history.There is only one problem. The GO is an authoritarian. He is abusive to his staff, dismissive of former GO's, doesn't solicit or adhere to advice from other spiritual leaders. His family life is suspect. He talks down to people and threatens anyone who challenges his authority as GO. Many people have tried to talk with him about his behavior, but there is no change and he is not going to change. Reform is not going to occur.

This thread is going to go well, I can sense it now.

Re: Hypothetical About the General Overseer

It won't happen like that.God would remove him or not allow a guy like that to get elected to our church leadership

So insuring son in law is YD in Michigan with little experience isn’t enough of a reason. The denomination isn’t a piggybank. No matter where you “tithed” in the past to make it happen

IF.... this is a veiled attempt to point to the flaws of our president, I only remind you that his office is not that of a spiritual leader. We don't vote for a national pastor, but a national leader. If... this isn't a veiled attempt to compare apples to oranges, and is, in fact, a sincere hypothetical about a General Overseer, then no, I wouldn't vote to re-elect a spiritual leader with proven character flaws.

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There are times God allows a manipulative bully to continue as a spiritual leader. It's not pretty.Disclaimer: This is in no way directed at our PB More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name

I wanted to see if behavior qualifications are different for a born-again President than a born-again preacher. I have been told repeatedly that Mr. Trump has accepted Christ (as per Franklin Graham, Pastor Jeffers, Pat Robertson, Paula White, etc. etc). Of course I knew the argument would be made that we elect a president, not a pastor, and while that is certainly true, I thought ALL born-again people were held to certain standards of conduct. Please don't tell me that Mr. Trump is a baby Christian so we have to excuse a lot of what he does. That dog won't hunt. He's a 72-year old man and knows what behaviors are acceptable and which are not. You have all agreed with me that the errant behavior of a COG GO is abhorrent and you would not re-elect him, but you give a wink and a nod to the same behavior in our born-again president. When strictly examining behavior and nothing else, I just thought ALL born-again people had the same standards. I guess I am wrong.

As I read the Bible I don't see where anyone gets a free pass to continue living their life in the same manner as before conversion. I expect to see evidence of the fruits of the Spirit whether the person is a President or a ditch digger. A new creation is just that, a NEW creation. Old things are passed away, giving way to the new. If Mr. Trump is indeed a baby Christian, should we not pray for him in the same manner as you would a new believer in your church? Only more “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”