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They can't decide anything - and referring it to another 2 year delay accomplishes nothing.I have listened to every minute of the sessions.We need to change to monthly conference calls of all OBs with voting allowed during them - OR - do away with this GA changing things - as this is how to NOT get things done.Of course the argument against is that Cleveland will control all the power of the changes then - but, my friends - they already do - you are just fooled into thinking the GA does - but how it is done now accomplishes very little - especially considering the great cost expended to do it

Centralized government, ya gotta love it! I have watched some of the GA myself.Entertaining to say the least Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

I didn't see the apology, but it is accepted

Re: GA no longer functions - will have to be replaced as governing body

I no longer hold COG credentials, I’m just a regular guy who pays his tithes each week and preaches occasionally in my local COG. Obviously I hate to see what has happened to the COG, and if I’m being honest it’s like standing back watching a slow death “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”

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Why are your top leaders (on stage) so quite when it comes to supporting the agenda items?

It's my understanding that it isn't proper somehow (maybe by Robert's Rule of Order?) for the moderator to comment on the proposal. I seem to recall that happening once, perhaps on a state level, where the moderator stepped away from the podium to address something and had to step out of his role as moderator to do so.I don't know much about it, since I've never studied RROO, but that's the best I can figure out.. More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name

It's my understanding that it isn't proper somehow (maybe by Robert's Rule of Order?) for the moderator to comment on the proposal. I seem to recall that happening once, perhaps on a state level, where the moderator stepped away from the podium to address something and had to step out of his role as moderator to do so.I don't know much about it, since I've never studied RROO, but that's the best I can figure out... Well, its a good think RROO was not around for the Jerusalem Council in the Book of Acts, because we could not have heard from James, Peter and Paul. Since the meeting took place in Jerusalem, where the church was mostly composed of Jewish Christians, the results could have been very different. So the COG takes their best and most visionary leaders, elects 23 of them to steer the denomination to where they feel God would have them go - they express this through the Agenda - and when it comes time to discuss it they must leave it up to the southern Male Bishops in a meeting in the south. I noticed that some of the vote counts were like around 1000, something like 600 for and 400 against. How many Bishops attend the Counsel?Mat

I have heard that the general sense is they don’t want to influence the vote unfairly. Since whatever is on the agenda is obviously something at least most of the EC (not sure the exact percentage) wanted on the agenda, it ought to be clear to everyone what the majority of the EC feels about any item on the agenda they themselves approved.