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Post subject: FG Minister: I Love Duplicity - Don't You?
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I love Republicans and hate Democrats. I loved it when Republicans gave it to Bill Clinton for his marital infidelity, but don’t seem to notice the three wives and multiple sex partners of Donald Trump. I loved it when Republicans called Clinton a liar and impeached him for it, but have no problem when Trump lies on a daily basis (i.e. “No, I didn’t know about a $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels). I hate it when Democrats point out the fact that Trump loves loyalty toward himself but doesn’t practice loyalty when dealing with others (i.e. Jeff Sessions). I love it when Republican Sean Hannity talked incessantly about how much golf Obama played, but when Trump plays even more golf, Hannity is silent. I love it when my party gives a wink and a nod to President Trump who gets the results they like, but keeps quiet about his lack of moral fiber. These are the same people who were quick to point out the lack of morality in Clinton and Obama. I’m as conservative as they come and have been employed by Republican politicians. I hated most of the policies of Obama and most of Clinton's, and I actually favor most of Trump’s policies, but that is beside the point. Aren’t Christians supposed to stand firm on God’s Word no matter who is in the White House?What I hate is when Christians on this board completely excuse President Trump’s behavior and tell us “we didn’t elect a Sunday School teacher.” But when Clinton and Obama were Presidents, these same people held them to “Sunday School Teacher” qualifications. But, I guess, if we are getting the political results we like, we should keep silent on those pesky Biblical standards. If lying and infidelity are wrong for a guy with a D by his name, aren't they just as wrong for an R.


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Post subject: lodestar: Amen!
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Amen and amen. Character matters. For presidents and for voters.


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Post subject: UncleJD:
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That's nice and holy and I would say the exact same thing about my pastor if he were like that.For the record, I don't like Trump's flaws as a person either and if we find out he's having sex with interns under the desk in the Oval office, then we can say that he's doing the same thing Slick Willie was doing, but until then you have zero point on that subject. BUT, if he does that, then I'm sure most of us would be right where you claim we aren't right now and ready to see him gone. (and if you think just because the elite didn't put the full-press on the previous nice-guys in the office and expose every single thing they were doing, that it wasn't happening, you are sadly naive)However, I don't need the POTUS to be nice, I need him to provide freedom of religion, speech, defend my rights, appoint conservative judges, lower taxes on business, put American interests above the globalists'. But don't worry, you'll get your nice guy next time I'm sure, and we can go back down the sewer, but at least they might live up to your standard while taking more and more of your liberty to run your churches or worship in the manner you believe in, preventing you from being able to afford to start a small business, keeping your congregation from having full-time jobs and disposable income for giving, racking up hundreds of thousands of dollars per person in tax debt to pay for social medicine and all of the sexual disease and abortion that will entail. Hope you enjoy it.


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Post subject: Aaron Scott: Here's the deal...
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It's perfectly acceptable to overlook many of Trump's moral shortcomings and focus only his policies...SO LONG AS you also overlook the moral shortcomings of those presidents you don't like, focusing only on their policies.Like other here, I do like Trump's policies more than I would have liked Hillary's. BUT I DETEST HIS MORALITY.Unfortunately, far too many who excuse Trump's morality, did not do the same for Clinton, Obama, etc.


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Post subject: UncleJD: Re: Here's the deal...
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Examples of people who excuse his morality please? And be factual because pointing out that Clinton's immorality was both before and DURING his presidency is not excusing Trump, but I'm not aware of ANY president other than Clinton who dittled in under the desk of the Oval Office. So basically, unless you have spoken out against EVERY president in the same manner, then you are a hypocrite. Trump will answer for his sin if he hasn't already to God, but that is his problem. No excuse, but irrelevant to the office based on the same or worse behavior by most of his predecessors. Obama - gay sex before being POTUSGWB - promiscuous drunk beforeClinton - LOLGHWB - GroperReagan - divorcee (at the very least)On-and-on. You just don't have as much on the others because; A. Trump was a VERY public figure before and never planned on politics B. Because deep pockets within BOTH parties (unprecedented) are doing everything they can to destroy him (granted, he's done a lot to deserve it, but again, so far it hasn't been in the office). As for lying, I can't laugh enough, he's in a seat that has had more than its share of liars, including the last one who got on TV a few days ago to expand his lies by about 2 hours' worth.


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Post subject: Aaron Scott: Uncle JD...clarification
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You are right: I used excused when what I meant was something more along the lines of not making a big deal out of it or not making it a dealbreaker.Indeed, I don't know of ANY Christian who actually EXCUSES Trump's moral failures. We ALL think those things are wrong.My point was rather that if Obama (say) had been caught (or even accused) in such things, many would have felt that was absolutely grounds for impeachment, etc. Again, you are right. I misspoke. I hope my intention is clear now.


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Post subject: UncleJD: Re: Uncle JD...clarification
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JD...


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You are right again. However, while that may have caused people to VOTE against liberals, it was what happened after the liberals took office that also bothered me. That is, it's a given about abortion, etc. But Republicans were acting like just about every single thing these guys did was wrong, wrong, wrong. If Obama forgot to put his hand over his heart, then, by George, he was a communist who hated America.When GWB did the SAME THING, not a peep.


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Post subject: Resident Skeptic: Re: JD...
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Uncle JD is doing such a great job setting the record straight that I think I will go to bed


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Post subject: diakoneo: Re: JD...
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Have You Ever Noticed How Defenders of Trump Defend Him?


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