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Post subject: Aaron Scott: What does "perish" mean?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am
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It came to me this morning that this verse does NOT say so that everyone will not go to hell and burn forever and ever, which is typically our standard approach.How can one perish if he/she is going to burn forever? Isn't that pretty much the opposite of perishing? In fact, it seems to me that a person in hell would WANT to perish!At the same time, if Jesus' story is giving us key truths about hell (i.e., the story about the rich man and Lazarus), then we are led to believe that a person does NOT perish in hell, but is cognizant, etc. But let's say that line one more time another way: ...a person does not perish in HELL.


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Post subject: diakoneo:
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Okay and also explain the term outer darkness. As in cast into outer darkness. I believe hell to be a place of eternal separation from God. As heaven is described in best of human terms...streets of gold, walls of Jasper etc. Hell is described in terms of worst in human terms.. torment and burning. Our souls are eternal. This is a biblical contextual truth and a truth taught in nature( Romans 1:17-20) There will be a judgment. It will be final and eternal. It will occur at the resurrection of the dead...all dead will be resurrected...those in Christ first. If the judgment is not eternal, why bother resurrecting unrighteous dead? Eternal separation from, He who is love, and right and good and light and life and peace... everything glorious and wonderful in our universe is much worse than the physical pain of fire just as being in the presence of that Great one who created us eternally is greater than streets of gold etc.And it is all because of the gospel. All because of Jesus!Wrath of God is revealed in nature and the Love of God was revealed on the cross. So let's preach the gospel!


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Post subject: Eddie Robbins:
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I challenge you to listen to Dr Edward Fudge. He teaches it exactly the way I believe it. youtu.be/oHUPpmbTOV4


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Post subject: diakoneo:
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Ok, I did.


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Post subject: Brandon Bohannon: Some very interesting Scripture to consider for this conversation
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Revelation 2:11New King James Version (NKJV)11 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by


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Post subject: Carolyn Smith:
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This is what the Strong's concordance says about perish: Definitionto destroyto put out of the way entirely, abolish, put an end to ruinrender uselessto killto declare that one must be put to deathmetaph. to devote or give over to eternal misery in hellto perish, to be lost, ruined, destroyedto destroyto loseI would say that this definition makes the most sense...to declare that one must be put to deathmetaph. to devote or give over to eternal misery in hellto perish, to be lost, ruined, destroyed. More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name


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Post subject: Eddie Robbins:
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Ok, I did. Many teach tradition of men rather than doctrine of scripture, I agree. I guess I disagree the most regarding his view of eternality of the soul. The soul is not immortal. There is no scripture for it. John 3:16


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Post subject: Eddie Robbins:
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I had an appt with my tax guy this morning who is a christian...


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We were talWdoing tax stuff...anyway, he asked me some questions posed this....1) If you believe a family member is in hell, would you do anything to get them out? If so, does this not mean that persons mercy is greater than Gods?2) Would you have 2 children if you knew one was going to hell?


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Post subject: Dave Dorsey: Re: I had an appt with my tax guy this morning who is a christian...
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I have enough going on in my life that I can't afford to devote mental resources to a complicated, largely unanswerable question like this one, especially when the outcome does not change my approach toward evangelism. Perhaps we have at times been motivated to share the gospel by a desire to see people avoid the fire of hell, but our motivation to share the gospel should always come from our desire to share our knowledge of Christ's inexpressible glory. Not evangelizing so that people can avoid a bad outcome, but evangelizing so that people can enjoy a glorious one.However, I will share a struggle that I have on this issue. When discussing the attributes of God, theologians classify them broadly as


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