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I recently overheard a current state overseer say that it cost him over $100,000 per year in salary to leave the church he pastored and become a state overseer! Is that true?

I am sure I have read on this forum that those salaries are not disclosed. just sayin'.If someone took a cut of 100K to become a state overseer. There hundreds more who pay up to that amount to pastor a local church, if you count their time and $ input.I think as a minister I would be ashamed to mention my 'sacrifice', when others are paying to pastor. again just sayin' Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

I am sure I have read on this forum that those salaries are not disclosed. just sayin'.If someone took a cut of 100K to become a state overseer. There hundreds more who pay up to that amount to pastor a local church, if you count their time and $ input.I think as a minister I would be ashamed to mention my 'sacrifice', when others are paying to pastor. again just sayin'. Cojak,After reading your response, I edited my post to get to the crux of my point. I don’t think I communicated well what I was trying to ask. I possibly “over communicated” my point. I am personally bi-vocational, so I am more than aware of the “sacrifice” of ministry. I have always seen it as a privilege more than a sacrifice. Secondly, the salary of the Executive Committee is disclosed to credentialed ministers under confidentiality. I did not disclose that, but I did make a comparison that gave a range. That was probably not appropriate. I deleted that.

Once you enter the national ranks--state overseer being pretty much the penultimate rank--many men are pretty much guaranteed a position for life, moving from this position to that position. Sometimes you recycle through General Overseer time after time, as I expect Tim Hill and Mark Williams to do over the years ahead, all things being equal.Some men are driven by ambition. Some have a desire for power and prestige. Some, perhaps most, have a sincere desire to be of use to the Kingdom. Others have a prophetic voice and vision that God has given them for the Church of God.

The denomination is controlled by three men: the majority of the Executive Committee. The General Overseer does not control the denomination, but rather whatever 3 of the 5 executive committee member decide.History shows that to become one of the three you must follow the path of serving as an AB. In my mind, that would be the only reason to leave a large church to become an AB.

If you get older - and want to truly help other pastors - influence them in the right direction - perhaps overseer is the place you want to be.Hopefully - it would be a dude that has been a successful pastor for quite some time.Maybe money has nothing to do with it.Influence - leave a legacy - train others - that's what I would hope an overseer aspires to do.Now we have all seen the ones that simply lord their authority over others - and I wish those jokers could get weeded out before they do too much damage - but I don't think the majority get into that position thinking that way

My question is not WHY...its HOW.Does the phone suddenly ring, with an offer to be an AB?Or is their some kind of application process

Job security. Truthfully, most churches have an ideal age range for a pastor. Not so with overseers. You can be old as the hills and still be an AB and preach camp meetings. Draw a check long after many of your peers have been put out to pasture.

Probably ask one of the guys that makes that appt....so, you got any openings for overseer? I'm interested

Years ago a very close friend told me he received a call out of the blue. Hold for the General. Small talk for a minute, the general had been my friends state Overseer. I am thinking about suggesting you for state overseer of New York or a western state. I want to know, If I do this, will you go, can your wife handle the move, but more importantly WILL YOU STAY?They talked about friends who took the job but returned with their tails between their legs, so to speak.His answer was YES to both. He remained as a State overseer for the rest of his ministry.He did not apply. That may have changed since the 1970s. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/