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Re: The LGBTQ litmus test, The Spanish Inquisition of our time?

Indeed a disturbing trend

JD - what you post is indeed happening to all U.S. Christians.Perhaps in the long run - it is a good thing that we will finally take a stand about what we believe about biblical sex.Divorce, Adultery, Fornication,we sort of just swept them aside and quit confronting anyone regarding those sins as they happened in the church. We took the stigma away. But, LGBTQ are forcing us to come out and say where we stand

true, but the pressure is coming from the young Christians. Its fine to come from the world, that's expected, it hurts when its such a loud voice within the church itself. This is why novices are not to be put in charge. Paul told Timothy to preach the word, REPROVE, REBUKE. Perhaps some of that is in order now. Perhaps some of these youngsters need to be put in their place and told: choose ye this day who you will serve

true, but the pressure is coming from the young Christians. Its fine to come from the world, that's expected, it hurts when its such a loud voice within the church itself. This is why novices are not to be put in charge. Paul told Timothy to preach the word, REPROVE, REBUKE. Perhaps some of that is in order now. Perhaps some of these youngsters need to be put in their place and told: choose ye this day who you will serve. The command to Reprove, Rebuke has always been in order. The fact that so very few have had the fortitude to do so is part of the reason why the church has adopted the mindset of the world(in many situations). In my opinion,it isn't the novice that is the problem. It's the seasoned preacher who no longer contends for the faith that was once delivered to the saints. Where are the voices from America's pulpits calling out sin and imploring the nation to repent? Maybe today's church is in the shape it's in due to a lack of Godly leadership “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”

true, but the pressure is coming from the young Christians. Its fine to come from the world, that's expected, it hurts when its such a loud voice within the church itself. This is why novices are not to be put in charge. Paul told Timothy to preach the word, REPROVE, REBUKE. Perhaps some of that is in order now. Perhaps some of these youngsters need to be put in their place and told: choose ye this day who you will serve. The command to Reprove, Rebuke has always been in order. The fact that so very few have had the fortitude to do so is part of the reason why the church has adopted the mindset of the world(in many situations). In my opinion,it isn't the novice that is the problem. It's the seasoned preacher who no longer contends for the faith that was once delivered to the saints. Where are the voices from America's pulpits calling out sin and imploring the nation to repent? Maybe today's church is in the shape it's in due to a lack of Godly leadership? True, but who is left that will listen these days? 200 years of rugged individualism has made its way into our churches so that each person is now a law unto their own self, ready to just move down the road until they find the right ear-scratcher that will tell them little Johnny or little Suzy are perfectly fine with their same-sex partners and they won't really die lost in their sins, God loves to accomodate whatever sin they want as long as they are good people, and on the other side there is no shortage of pastors willing to preach whatever is wanted as long as they get paid to do it. 2 Timothy 4

There is a shallow version of evangelicalism that is about talking about relationship and drepeating a prayer and not about faith and relationship thatncan be very light on doctrine.IIMao churches need 5o teach this topic preemptively. Teach what sexual immorality is. Tdleach living holy. Point out thrle holes in the LGBTA arguments are by pounting out that lust doesnt justify sin and problems with carnal love. Some adulterers probably have strong feelings like married couples do but God's agape does not delight in iniquity but rejoices in the truth. People who grow up watching movies and TV, and hearing people talk even in wermons may think the feelings of romantic love.are a magical thing that justifies fornication breaking up marriages and sex with the same sex. This seems to be at the root of a lot of sexual sin and divorce in our culture. If someone gets into a relarionship and experiences that everyonr izs expected to applaud that

The inquisition we are discussing in this thread fits under the umbrella of the

What do they do with Romans chapter 3, particularly verse 19?

Many pastors and church members have loved ones (relatives) who are homosexual. At one time homosexuality was denounced as a sin and abomination in the eyes of God. But now due to the fact that relatives burning in hell is far too painful a thought for the church to deal with (in my opinion) the church has changed its theology to soften the sin.That is why the church at large often doesn't deal with it head on. I refuse to use the political correct terms such as gay, LGBQT, and such. I still use the term homosexual.I guess I'm just old school hard shell