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Because of what you've been taught or what you have studied?There is a difference. I look forward to discussion on this

Yeah, what he said. Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

I don't break fellowship with anyone over timing of the rapture, but I strongly lean towards the Pre-Trib position. I'll offer just a few reasons:1- Many people will point to the Gospels as proof that the rapture and 2nd coming are one in the same event. The problem with that view is that Paul told the Corinthians that the doctrine of the rapture was a mystery- something previously unrevealed. The Gospels have a very Jewish view of the end-times because Jesus' earthly ministry was primarily to the lost sheep of Israel.2- Paul indicates in Romans that something will happen which will again turn the majority of God's dealings to the nation of Israel. In Romans 11:25Paul says that what will precipitate that is the fulness of the Gentiles coming in. The rapture seems to fit perfectly with this scenario. This brings me to my final point in this..3- After Revelation chapter 3, the book takes a decided turn towards Israel again

I like the comment from the beginning to the end! The logic is sound, even the 'don't break fellowship' in disagreement.! Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

Because of Matthew 24:36(KJV): But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. and other Scriptures, only pre-trib works for me. The tribulation has a definite easy -to- identify beginning with the signing of a peace treaty between Israel and her Arab enemies. Daniel 9:27

I'm wid Da Sheik - & Spartanfan.I've argued my last time with the Kingdom Folk and will just preach what I believe is truth. I would rather spend my time winning souls and getting people to Christ than to be bogged down in doctrine disputes.Yes, Pre-Trib for me in answer to the question above and I'm pre-trib from being taught as well as studying it out for myself. I've been harassed by ministry coming to my house trying to get me to change, when I was kind enough to let them preach for me, and when I did they would knowingly plant discord in our church. I have studied with them for hours and even tried not to preach the Pre Trib thing for 3 months to give myself every bit of opportunity to know the truth.I've been called unteachable, unreachable, and bull headed but I am at peace in my walk with God. I am fully convinced the Coming of Jesus is imminent and the results in the salvation of souls department is stronger than it has ever been. I'm flying, I ain't dying, and I'm gonna have a hot meal straight off the Table and not any cold cuts at the end. That last line is just corny humor on my part. lol....... But regardless for what goes down, I will be ready

I'm wid Da Sheik - & Spartanfan.I've argued my last time with the Kingdom Folk and will just preach what I believe is truth. I would rather spend my time winning souls and getting people to Christ than to be bogged down in doctrine disputes.Yes, Pre-Trib for me in answer to the question above and I'm pre-trib from being taught as well as studying it out for myself. I've been harassed by ministry coming to my house trying to get me to change, when I was kind enough to let them preach for me, and when I did they would knowingly plant discord in our church. I have studied with them for hours and even tried not to preach the Pre Trib thing for 3 months to give myself every bit of opportunity to know the truth.I've been called unteachable, unreachable, and bull headed but I am at peace in my walk with God. I am fully convinced the Coming of Jesus is imminent and the results in the salvation of souls department is stronger than it has ever been. I'm flying, I ain't dying, and I'm gonna have a hot meal straight off the Table and not any cold cuts at the end. That last line is just corny humor on my part. lol....... But regardless for what goes down, I will be ready

In 1990 I realized I could no longer continue the mental and hermeneutical gymnastics required to uphold the pre-trib doctrine. If Christ returns today, then the 1000 (IF the 1000 years are literal) year reign starts today. No secret rapture. No 7 year tribulation. Jesus comes one time. Christ has known the day and hour of his coming since his glorification. He is the all-knowing Jehovah. Furthermore, he never said men would not be able to narrow down the approximate time of his return. It is clear in Matthew that people will still be caught unaware, in spite of prophecy being fulfilled around them, because they will by that time have been sent strong delusion that they should believe a lie and be damned. The saints will be kept through all this and be spared God's wrath. I also think a PARTIAL-preterism may be true, that leaves room for a future second coming

Of course you know how this errant doctrine would go over in the Baptist church.Like a lead balloon. Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

It looks like 2 and 3 would argue for post-trib (or prewrath or something along those lines.) Peter told an Israelite audience to repent so that times of refreshing may come. Paul asked what shall the receiving of him (Israel) be but life from the dead? If repentence in Israel precedes the Lord's return, then why wouldn't the Lord's return be post-trib instead of pre-trib