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I recently came across a book called The Bishop's Blind Spot

Matthew 18

That's what I'm saying. Matthew 18

Got you, that makes sense.I think another challenge is that bad leadership isn't necessarily a sin. Matthew 18is designed to facilitate the confrontation of sin in the church. Your state's situation may involve that -- I have no idea which state you're talking about (and don't want to know) -- and if so, Matthew 18should be used for that portion.But being bad at a job isn't necessarily a sin. In most cases it probably isn't. So does Matthew 18give you anything there? Can the model still be used? A one on one confrontation, followed by a joint confrontation, followed by a public confrontation? Maybe it does.

One on one may be the way it should be, but in the present world it must be a group. Whether in a corporate world or in church hierarchy where men are promoted to their highest level of incompetence and cannot face it. Many years ago we had leaders who took overseers jobs and realized they were over their heads and gave it up. Some stuck it out and did a poor job ashamed to admit they were great as a pastor, but blown away in administration.Even the group has a big down side, you may be accused of conspiracy. I think a good thing in any state would be an official survey strictly anonymous. Incompetence may not be a sin, but trying to cover it up, could be hurting your brothers Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

I have no idea how performance is measured in the COG at the Administrative level, or if it even is formally measured.In the corporate world we used a very detailed system of goal setting and mid-year and end of year appraisals. If you met or exceeded your agreed upon goals, all was good. If not, be prepared to be placed in a performance improvement plan, from which very few ever escaped.Later, we adopted the Jack Welch “rank and yank” method that essentially removed non performers from the corporate gene pool. Ruthless, but very effective.My point being that if there is no formal performance review system in place, poor performance is overlooked or ignored. Or even worse, poor performers are shuffled along to another state or position for someone else to deal with.It seems to me that if there are AB’s performing in the manner described in some recent threads, there is little accountability. And that is a major flaw in the system. IMO of course “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”

There isn't any accountability at all. Being in the position usually gets you a promotion.I heard we had an evaluation years back and the guy said Your organization is big and healthy but one thing is gonna kill it. They asked what that was and he said Your good ol' boy system. They thanked him for the evaluation and sent him on his way.

Is there some way for several pastors who have experienced this come together to report to COGHQ? (Thinking there is strength in numbers... More of Him...less of me.twitter.com/camiracle77www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=691241499&ref=name

Centralized government, ya gotta love it.Cleveland will not tolerate anything or anyone what rocks the boat.Ask Joe Chambers Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church

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