But that's just the same old problem of why bad things happen to good people. Just remember there is a bad devil.and a good God. We live in a fallen world where unfortunately it rains on the just and unjust.Dave, I dont know you just a newbie here but you typify an attitude of cynicism from traditional Christianity has always had with Pentecostals and then it's the same attitude many older Pentecostals had with charismatics. The problem stems from how you read the Bible. When people read the Bible and believe it literally without a lot of exegesis and then they act as if the word just says what it says and they stand upon it. You criticize them for believing the Word without your bias as to why it doesnt say what it plainly says. For instance when Copeland et al declare with authority when they pray for something you say who do they think they are, God? No, they think the word says they can say that. Are you right? Are they? Well, I think they are. Can they be arrogant about it? Yes. I hate that part. I hate the excessive prosperity part of theIr teaching but God came to bring us life, a undant life has He not?Anyway here are some scriptures for you to chew on. I know you wont change and I dont want to argue with you but little grace would be nice.(Mat 10:1 NIV) He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them Authority-exousia to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness. (Mark 1:27NIV) The people were all so amazed that they asked each other, What is this? A new teaching--and with Authority-exousia! He even gives orders to evil spirits and they obey him. (Mark 2:10-12NIV) But that you may know that the Son of Man has Authority-exousia on earth to forgive sins . . . . He said to the paralytic, {11} I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home. {12} He got up, took his mat and walked out in full view of them all. This amazed everyone and they praised God, saying, We have never seen anything like this! (Luke 9:1-2NIV) When Jesus had called the Twelve together, he gave them power and Authority-exousia to drive out all demons and to cure diseases, {2} and he sent them out to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. (Luke 10:19-20NIV) I have given you Authority-exousia to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. {20} However, do not rejoice that the spirits