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...then praise God that means you definitely are saved! We have heard and perhaps even used such enthusiastic rhetoric many times before. Some questions I have about this:What if it is actually your own guilty conscience that is telling you you're not saved?What if it is the conviction of the Holy Spirit telling you you're not saved (either never were or have backslidden) but need to truly repent and be converted? The way the rhetoric is typically used, it would tell people who ought to be convicted and converted to actually deny the conviction of the Holy Spirit and claim they are definitely saved regardless of what ANYONE tells them. Paul told the Corinthians to Examine yourselves, and see whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves... But the way the salvation rhetoric is typically used, one should NEVER doubt whether one is saved or not, and to do so is to 'listen to the Devil instead of God.'

Very good points. We humans do always have the problem of discernment. Even when one is sure they KNOW.The same thing happens to many when they feel they have a 'Word' from the Lord, (IS this me or you Lord?) I think when I have questioned that, it has been ME!When there has ever been 'DOUBT'

Good one I heard someone testified one time and they were talking about the devil the whole time. He said, the devil has been on my back all day long, bless his wonderful name.Yeah he got a little confused.

Then I suggest the hubby do some praying, Cause SHE probably has the inside scoop! Experience my man, experience!!!! Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]://shipslog-jack.blogspot.com/

If it's YOUR CONSCIENCE telling you that, then maybe you aren't saved.But if, as T.L. said, it's THE DEVIL, he's lying.I think T.L., has a point.

I was not trying to criticize TL. I've heard that phrase or a variation of it many, many times in the past. I believe the phrase, while perhaps well intended, really is unhelpful. It's just like the God told me phrase. It gets used a whole lot to simply justify oneself and one's actions.Case in point: A backslider hears that, and tells himself, I knew it! I shouldn't let the Devil condemn me! I'm saved!

He's the guy who might not be saved.

Oh, sorry, QW...

QW, I was listening to that song, Room With A View, by 11th Hour--and the girl sang about John wrote about heaven....

Take heed lest you think all Pentecostal-style preaching is hyped up preacher talk. Yes, it's emotional and does elicit a response.Yes, I do know someone who came in contact with SATAN. I hope you know Him too.And if Satan is the accuser of the brethren, if Satan hindered Paul...well, I reckon we have come in contact with him too. And T.L.'s point is that because Satan is a liar and the Father of Lies, he is not going to be telling us the truth--especially one that confirms our relationship with God.And your point about Satan not knowing our hearts--that hyped up preacher stuff (SMILE)--well, that's just one more reason to not listen to what he has to say.And Quiet Wyatt, it just struck me that Satan might not want to tell an unsaved person he was unsaved. Why? It might cause the person to feel the need to get saved.