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Post subject: c6thplayer1: Cruz - citizen or not?
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:07 am
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Here's what reported;Cruz - Because my mother was a US citizen, born in Delaware, I was a US citizen by birth, he said in a 2013 statement.Obama's mother was born in Kansas Remember all the hurrah about Obama being born in Honolulu? The focus was the validity of his birth records. But if your mother is a US citizen then so are you regardless of where your born --- According to the republicans.Just another example of a double standard the republicans stand on.http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-firestorm-over-ted-003631091.html


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I have never been a birther unlike Trump and a few other.That being said, Cruz has already produced his birth certificate.I find it odd that McCain wants to look into it when Hillary and Obama gave him a pass on his Panama Territory birth. Now there is your story. McCain wants Rubio. I think Trump is truly the Republican establishment darling. The reality of who he is, is out there. Check it out. The man is no conservative. If he gets the nomination and becomes President, he will continue to bark loudly to the base and toe the company line. Mark my words! He will increase the deficit, get us in a couple more wars, usurp more power in the executive branch, do nothing about Obamacare. Yeah he might build a wall, but it will be to keep us in.


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I guess the thing that erps me the most is the rant that Obama was not a US citizen even though his mother was born in Kansas but Cruz is a citizen because his mother was born in Delaware.Really doesnt matter , I lost faith in the republican party a long time ago.


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I agree whole heartedly the GOP and double standards, then it is the same with both parties. They spin (that used to be TWIST) any situation to suit them.BUT AS FOR TRUMP BEING A CONSERVATIVE, of course he is not. But this election is not about conservative/liberal. He took it away from there a long time ago. It is about someone saying what lots of Americans want to hear. Like 'someone' said on this forum, I do wish someone else was saying it!I hear Jeb saying what he should have been saying months ago. Jeb should have went after the administration and Hillary long ago instead of the other candidates.No TRump is not conservative, but I think he has smelled 'I CAN WIN' in the air and will be around. If he wins the nomination, he will probably get my vote. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]://shipslog-jack.blogspot.com/


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Post subject: revuriah:
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The whole Obama birther thing was an invention of Hillary Clinton in 2008. It was never a republican thing. Sure, a few conservative people may have jumped on the bandwagon, but no prominent conservative voices (Rush, Hannity, Cruz, etc.) were taking part from what I recall. Even if he was born in Kenya, his mom was a US citizen, and thus he is (though there is question over possible renunciation of citizenship). I don't see a double standard here The World As I See Ithttp://worldjeffreysees.blogspot.com/Revuriah's Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/people/Jeff-Richard/1226257444Jeffrey David Richard's Myspace Musicwww.myspace.com/547856946


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Post subject: Aaron Scott: Law of the blood, Law of the soil.
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The issue is not if Cruz is a citizen. If his mother was a citizen, he is too.The question is whether he is a natural born citizen, which is required of presidents. The argument could be that you are not natural born, since born in Canada. I don't think that will hold, but it's never really been tested.


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Post subject: Nature Boy Florida:
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Cruz is as much a natural born citizen as Obama - so there should not be a question about his eligibility. Obama solved that.Diakoneo - Which candidate exactly will reduce the deficit? The Congress passes budgets - right now the Republicans just voted in a trillion dollar deficit for next year - so anyone in Congress that is a part of that group does not get my vote.It doesn't leave many choices


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Post subject: Aaron Scott: NBF...not quite
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Yes, I believe they are both citizens and BORN citizens.But if Cruz was born in Canada, the question that arises is the Constitutional demand that a president be a natural born citizen. Yes, we know that means not naturalized...but does it mean anything more? That has never been an issue in presidential politics (although it did keep Alexander Hamilton from running).


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there are always Pregnant Citizens traveling outside the USA. Thousands of US service men stationed outside the USA with their spouse. Hundreds were born in GITMO. Still hundreds more in Germany on the local economy and not on a BASE. Embassy personnel's children are not born at the embassy (normally) and these should be considered as candidates for the presidency.Funny that, I never thought of what c6th said about Obama, 'WE' many citizens (Including Trump) tried to disavow the present occupant of the White House and got carried away about a birth certificate. (phoney or not) evidently it did not matter if mama was a citizen. I have two sons, one born in Mississippi the other in Missouri, some consider those 'foreign states'. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]://shipslog-jack.blogspot.com/


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Post subject: diakoneo:
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The congress passed a budget they knew Obama would sign to keep the government from shutting down. Cruz did not vote for it. I think Rubio was absent and did not vote. I agree it was a detestable thing to do (voting on that budget) How did your congressman vote on the issue? Mine, thankfully voted against it.I say they should have proposed a good budget and sold it to the American people, then let Obama veto it. Put the ball in his court. I agree both Rs and Ds stink.As to Trumps veto skills, who knows what he will do? He has no record as a public servant. He does have a record of schmoozing whoever he needs to, to get


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