Granted, although the same type of argument is used by people who are saying think about everything Ford and Ramirez and Swetnick have to lose by making these accusations. It's not an invalid argument in either case, it's just not actual evidence. That said -- I do personally agree that it is less likely one would falsely claim guilt then that one would choose to embroil themselves in a fiasco like this with a false allegation. To advance their agenda - referring to the women's claims - lying is wholly acceptable - Lenin would say it makes them heroes of the state. American culture is at war, albeit its a one sided affair. As it has been said, all's fair in love and war. I am struggling with the contradictory assertions that women are equal to men, but that men must protect women. I know, my thoughts do not matter because I an an old white conservative male. I'm going to keep this in mind in my future interaction with women. Mat