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Are they afraid of a mass exodus from the Church of God.Let me be plain speakin, pards.Ministers today are fully capable of getting their own nonprofit status. Churches can set up sound doctrine in their charters for a covering. Most of our youth don't attend youth camps, because the churches are doing it the ministry locally.More churches aren't owning buildings. Many are renting facilities or owning their own under a separate nonprofit incorporation, leaving the denomination out of it.They are ordaining and educating others for ministry. Let this old cowboy ask a question.Are overseers and headquarters scared by this? I'm seeing more and more men leaving the organization and it's turning out to be the best thing that has ever happened for them or their churches. Ministers and churches are tired of being lied to and manipulated by overseers who have their own agendas. Churches have had pastors forced on them and the congregations leave. Maybe some time in the bear cave would help, but I doubt it. There is an exodus from the Church of God going on, I tell you what. Now the obvious question this old judge is asking is whether headquarters and overseers are scared by it or are they content to watch Rome burn while they fiddle away

Much of that in the OP is a fact. I always question the 'lied to' part because it never happened to me. I really feel a little tinge if I state as a fact, I was lied to. Even in business when I felt like using that statement, I thought long and hard. The secular world is the only place I have felt 'That was in fact a lie!'I do have friends in the COG ministry that say they were 'mislead', one said out right he was lied to, but in many cases it was a spin to keep from embarrassing an individual.The 'Lied to' part always bothers me, when referring to our church leaders. I cannot say it doesn't happen of course, but some stories I could see where there could be a lot of misunderstanding.I have even heard it said about some pastors. I did have a pastor once that knew the overseer was coming to check out some accusations and we met in the church. Remember the Church registers? We used to put up front the in SS, YPE etc. When I met with the overseer we talked and he said, Looking at the register you guys are doing great. (I had not noticed the register.)When I returned to the little sanctuary I looked at the board, WOW we had 92 in SS and $71 in offerings. That church had never had more than 35 people attend. I asked my pastor later, What happened to the board?Jack, I was dusting and knocked the 's off the board and just stuck them back up, I didn't pay attention if they were correct or not.Now was that a lie? It could have been, odds are it was, BUT what he said COULD have happened. Some facts but mostly just my [email protected]/

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Are overseers and other administrators afraid of the mass exodus going on in the Church of God. It's going on every day, I tell you what. Ministers are opening their eyes and a realizing that they can get along just fine without an overseer. More of our churches are a realizing it, too.This is a situation created by continual dishonesty that has created a lack of trust. These fellas are just now seeing the harvest of what they sowed, I tell you what. I think I might buy two more bear cages just in case someone ever sues one of these owl hoots in my court

There’s an easy way to stop the cheaters, but the COG doesn’t have the stomach to deal with the ensuing backlash. Simply invoke a 10% tax(call it a tithe if it makes you feel better) on all monies received. Wanna designate your monies go to missions, GF, Building Fund, or any one of a dozen other categories? No problem, but HQ is gonna get their cut off the top of all of it “Hell will be filled with people that didn’t cuss, didn’t drink, and may even have been baptized. Why? Because none of those things makes someone a Christian.”

There’s an easy way to stop the cheaters, but the COG doesn’t have the stomach to deal with the ensuing backlash. Simply invoke a 10% tax(call it a tithe if it makes you feel better) on all monies received. Wanna designate your monies go to missions, GF, Building Fund, or any one of a dozen other categories? No problem, but HQ is gonna get their cut off the top of all of it. I don't think one can tax their way into compliance w/out a major fallout Empty nest syndrome is for the birds!Email me at: [email protected] planters are focused on just one thing ...introducing people to Jesus!

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why does the CoG have such a high dues from their churches? In the AG, each District imposes it's own percentage on our churches. The one I am in recommends 1% of all income go the the District. In addition an amount based upon sunday am avg attendance is required annually to be given to the General Council. A church averaging 300 would give $250 or so annually. In addition, all ministers are required to give 80% of their personal tithe to their local district and additionally give 30$ per month to the general council. That's it.My church has an income of $1000000 or so and gives 10000$ to our district each yr and another $1000 to the General Council.

Are state overseer and headquarters alarmed at the exodus from the Church of God. Why one overseer summed it up real nice when he said they out frightening thing would be for the preachers to realize that headquarters needs them more than they need headquarters.That statement was an eye opener I tell you what.In the last few years while bunches of good men have left and know what? They're doing fine; better than fine. They're doing great.An the exodus continues. Is leadership at state and general levels blind or are they just ignoring the obvious and a waiting until their next appointment.Know what, pards? You can only ride that bronco so long until it dies from exhaustion.Are we a seeing that today? Keep,your eyes open, cowboys. You can only ignore is just so long

Our exodus occurred 30 years ago.Everything the Judge has said is true.We are living proof Charles A. HutchinsSenior Pastor SPWCCongregational Church of Godwww.spwc.church